[Axem]

okok so it has like, 5000 beam cannons (BFReds), can take out a collususus, the entire gtva fleet AND can blow up stars and survive!



Ok, maybe not. It's Shivan and a cruiser. It would be about the size of a Lilith, maybe slightly bigger or smaller. My thought was to make it a Shivan Aeolus, a terror to fighters. Cluster missiles, flak, AAA, with not as great anti cap ship weaponry.




Your thoughts, opinions and comments?

[Dark Hunter]

Looks good. With textures I can imagine it would look very Shivan indeed. Looks almost like a Lilith MK. II to me.

[Sarafan]

Make the frontal part, it's ''mouth'', I mean, smaller. What's its weaponry?

[Nuke]

nice

[Axem]

Sarafan: Good point. Originally it was going to be a light cruiser, so the front was a bit bigger.

Armament planned so far is 3 SReds, 4 AAAf, 3 Fighter Killers, and around 6 or so flak/laser guns.

[Goober5000]

In the original concept art, those three triangular dots are where beams are supposed to go (which is why the Lucifer is described as having 3 beams - one on each arm and one in the middle).  This is sort of kept in the Cain and Lilith classes, except the turret is underneath the triangle rather than on it.  So maybe you should put a larger beam there.

[Axem]

Nice idea. Maybe an LRed in the middle there and say the dots are all giving a contribution to the beam.

[TrashMan]

Yeah, but it wouldn't be a light crouser anymore with a LRed...

[Sarafan]

That's a good idea, a beam in the middle (light enough to remain a light cruiser) and you could add 3 AAAfs on a triangular form, one at the top of each claw and a last one at the rear, that would give them the best coverage.

[Admiral Nelson]

Warning: radical idea.....

Give it Lilith armament. And then call it a Lilith....  Then we have a visually distinct ship to look at, instead of a Cain clone.... 

[Dark Hunter]

Yeah, but it wouldn't be a light crouser anymore with a LRed...

It could be a light strike cruiser.

[Axem]

Trashman: Well I said originally it would have been a light cruiser, but I changed my mind. The front was a bit bigger for that reason, to make it seem a bit smaller.

Admiral Nelson: Making it a Lilith wouldn't work. The weapons placement wouldn't fit on the ship. Nice try though.

[Taristin]

Its nice, but it'll need custom mapping, I think, on par with the Lilith to do it justice.

[Trivial Psychic]

Here's a thought... its kind of a long-range shivan RBC on a ship.  Basically, its rather weak for a cruiser, with minimal anti-fighter weapons, and one weapon on the front thats like a very long range version of the BFRed, or perhaps something a little lighter.  Its kinda fast for a cruiser so it can make a quick get-away.  The idea is, the Shivans use some cap-ships as bait to lure an enemy destroyer into an engagement, then about 4 of these jump in at long range, each from different vectors, and proceed to chew-up the destroyers, so that when they get within range of the bait cap-ships, the destroyer is in no shape to fight and is torn apart.  Furthermore, by the time fighters or other cap-ships can be scrambled to attack these cruisers, it can jump out and escape.

Oh, and I think that this looks VERY cool!

[Dark Hunter]

Kinda like a scaled-down SSD Diablo.... (WAY scaled down)
One big gun, and minimal defense everywhere else.

[Axem]

Raa: Yeah, it needs its own UV map. Tiled just doesn't do it any more. The ship has perfect triangular symmetry, so I only need to UV map a third of it. Well in theory at least.

At the very least, I'll UV map it and use the textures from the Media VP's to create the map. But if someone else wants to texture it, be my guest.

[Unknown Target]

Very cool, although if the big spiky part is the front, try stretching it out a little bit - it looks kind of squished right now, IMO.

[Mefustae]

Am I the only one who thought this was an HTL attempt at the Lilith/Cain design? Seriously, I want to see this kind of radical HTL'ing on more models, it worked wonders for the Dis [which now looks damned sexy], so maybe we could do the same with the Cain and/or Lilith, which are both in dire need of HTL'ing anyways... not as radical as this, but still a departure from the original...

[Nuke]

ive a crazy plan. cut the arms off at the joint and make them subobjects. use the animation code in conjunction with the turret firing trigger so that the arms fold in, sathanas style, then the turret fires. maybe instead of a beam make it a subspace weapon of sorts. i think it would be cool

Raa: Yeah, it needs its own UV map. Tiled just doesn't do it any more. The ship has perfect triangular symmetry, so I only need to UV map a third of it. Well in theory at least.

At the very least, I'll UV map it and use the textures from the Media VP's to create the map. But if someone else wants to texture it, be my guest.

i find that you can go all the way up to corvette using a single texture as opposed to tiles. its tough and you got to double up as much stuff as possible (you know how tightly packed the uv space for the ragnarok is ). still being only a criuser, gives you room to splurge. if i had time id love to texture it. unfortunately i dont. but good luck anyway.

[Xeandra]

make the tree dots anti-fighter beams so it could tear up the defensive fighters of larger ships, and any other fighter that gets to its forward arch