[pecenipicek]

Well, inspired by the misterious shrooms thread (), i've decided to try and ask you guys what of the... well.. um, how to phrase it...


what have you guys/girls tried? and what are you using still?

i for one have tried marijuana, which oddly enough didnt affect me in any way, even tho that might be the fault of people who rolled the joint...


thats about for the stuff i tried


as for stuff i do regularly/semi-regularly, booze, cigs(veeeery rarely...), camomile(smoking it not a joke.)


booze makes me semi-hyperactive and most of all tree hugging...  cigs.. well, dunno, didnt smoke a lone cig in a looong time

and camomile.... weeeeeeeell     to me the effect is sorta like getting drunk, without the bad sides... sorta like tripping, but only barely, and the feeling lasts 10 minutes at most.


i would like to try LSD, but its a wee bit hard to get here and i steel havent found two people thrustworthy enough to guard me while i'm tripping... any of you tried LSD?


(or know how to make it? )

[Polpolion]

What the crap?

And I thought I needed to pay attention to my 'custom' title.

[pecenipicek]

whaaat? i intended to do a thread like this for quite some time. and i'm 100% sure that it came out a wee bit wrong

[Polpolion]

doing drugs is on par with shoving a burning stick down your throat. (thats the way I think of it)

:/

[achtung]

Alcoholic beverages.


Also, I've been trapped in a small room with another person smoking a joint, don't know if that counts.  I probably got a contact buzz, but as I said, don't know if that counts for anything.  All I know is I felt nice and sleepy.

Otherwise, I steer clear of the stuff.  I know I have an addictive personality so I don't wanna let myself get caught up in any of it.

[pecenipicek]

well, i'm against marijuana and cigs, and most other stuff, my only drugs are booze and camomile(if that can be called a drug...) at the moment...

the only other drug that i'd want to try is LSD.

just for the hell of it... heh...

[aldo_14]

The only drug I've taken is alcohol, and I gave that up to try and stay in shape for 5s.  A semester long elective on drugs has convinced me you'd have to a complete ****ing idiot to take anything beyond said bevvy.

[neoterran]

If you've never taken a drug, you really are not qualified to say anything about how bad it is, becasue there is a lot of propaganda out there and not all of it is true.

Having said that, I can definately recommend you avoid the following drugs :

cocaine and crack-cocaine (freebase)
heroin
crystal meth
angel dust (PCP)
and any opiate related pill such as hydrocodone (vicodin), codeine, oxycodone, percocet.
Also avoid barbituates like valium and any other weird pills.
DXM (in cough syrup)

Now on to the drugs I recommend experimenting with :
Marijuana (don't smoke it every day or habitually. The first time you may not get high, you probably smoked it wrong. try a few times and you'll get it)
Alcohol (this is a very dangerous drug, only use in moderation and not more than 2 to 3 times a week, lest you become physically dependant and start a tolerance to it.)
Mushrooms (take only in a controlled setting. Do not take more than 1/8 of an ounce of mushrooms at once. Do not mix with other drugs or alcohol. Be prepared to feel ill. Remember that it will end and you only took a drug that will wear off and you will not die.)
LSD(this is highly preferable to mushrooms as it is a lot nicer of an effect, mushrooms are unpredicable and LSD is easier to take a measured dose. Do not take more than one dose (hit) your first time (25 to 50 micrograms). Take only in a controlled setting. Do not mix with other drugs or alcohol. Remember that it will end and you will not die. Make sure you allot 12 to 15 hours for the experience.)
Ecstasy(MDMA) (it's very hard to find pure MDMA. Most "e" or "x" pills contain adulterants, caffeine, DXM (cough syrup active ingredient),Amphetamines, or other MDMA precursors (weak forms of MDMA) mixed in with the adulterants. If you take MDMA, make sure you drink plenty of water throughout the experience and take breaks from strenous activity, such as dancing, often. You will feel like you love everyone. This is not a real feeling but a drug symptom, so watch out !)

I think that about covers it for the common drugs. I have taken all of these before, even the bad ones, so I know what is okay and what should be avoided at all costs (there is no good that can come of the drugs on the bad list)

[Ulala]

Interesting. Thanks for the insight as I probably won't be taking any of these. 

[brozozo]

I've never used an illegal drug in my life. If you're counting alcohol, I've been drunk four times in my life.

[Flipside]

Well, I'll agree that a massive percentage of 'Anti-Drug' messages are either grossly overstated or simply pulled out of the rectum. However, there are dangers to drugs and people need to be aware of them before any kind of experimentation.

LSD is ok, but you can get what is called a 'Bad Trip', which is a terrifying experience, this is why I have never taken it.
Marijuana is more of a risk because it is usually smoked with tobacco. If you must try it, I recommend you take it in a manner that doesn't involve tobacco.
Magic Mushrooms are unusual, some people they don't affect, other people they have a profound effect on, once again, it's down to personal choice.

I don't recommend drugs, not because they are not enjoyable or fun sometimes, but because I could not, in all good conscience, suggest trying them to people when I have no idea how susceptible to addiction you are. If you are the sort of person who, once they find something they like, tend to spend the next 6 days doing nothing else, then avoid drugs, because you stand a fair chance of getting addicted. If you are capable of putting down something you enjoy in order to get on with real life, then the problem is far less.

[pecenipicek]

If you've never taken a drug, you really are not qualified to say anything about how bad it is, becasue there is a lot of propaganda out there and not all of it is true.

Having said that, I can definately recommend you avoid the following drugs :

cocaine and crack-cocaine (freebase)
heroin
crystal meth
angel dust (PCP)
and any opiate related pill such as hydrocodone (vicodin), codeine, oxycodone, percocet.
Also avoid barbituates like valium and any other weird pills.
DXM (in cough syrup)

thats the stuff i avoid like hell!

Now on to the drugs I recommend experimenting with :
Marijuana (don't smoke it every day or habitually. The first time you may not get high, you probably smoked it wrong. try a few times and you'll get it)

could be... i dont like the smell actually... nor do i have the money to smoke it even habitually... i just want to try it and properly get high once...

Alcohol (this is a very dangerous drug, only use in moderation and not more than 2 to 3 times a week, lest you become physically dependant and start a tolerance to it.)

i dont drink it anymore too much, once, twice, thrice a month at most and i last got drunk... a bit more than 3 months ago. a week before i started  dating my current girl... i prefer liquor vodkas and good beer above everything else

Mushrooms (take only in a controlled setting. Do not take more than 1/8 of an ounce of mushrooms at once. Do not mix with other drugs or alcohol. Be prepared to feel ill. Remember that it will end and you only took a drug that will wear off and you will not die.)

this is one of the things i will never, ever, ever try. i'm just a little bit scared of using mushrooms...

LSD(this is highly preferable to mushrooms as it is a lot nicer of an effect, mushrooms are unpredicable and LSD is easier to take a measured dose. Do not take more than one dose (hit) your first time (25 to 50 micrograms). Take only in a controlled setting. Do not mix with other drugs or alcohol. Remember that it will end and you will not die. Make sure you allot 12 to 15 hours for the experience.)

this is what i want to try, i want to feel a trip...

Ecstasy(MDMA) (it's very hard to find pure MDMA. Most "e" or "x" pills contain adulterants, caffeine, DXM (cough syrup active ingredient),Amphetamines, or other MDMA precursors (weak forms of MDMA) mixed in with the adulterants. If you take MDMA, make sure you drink plenty of water throughout the experience and take breaks from strenous activity, such as dancing, often. You will feel like you love everyone. This is not a real feeling but a drug symptom, so watch out !)

i'm not touching ecstasy i any way, shape or form. a friend of mine ended up in a week long coma after taking one such pill... gah. that was a horrid week...

I think that about covers it for the common drugs. I have taken all of these before, even the bad ones, so I know what is okay and what should be avoided at all costs (there is no good that can come of the drugs on the bad list)

thanks, this is much appreciated

Well, I'll agree that a massive percentage of 'Anti-Drug' messages are either grossly overstated or simply pulled out of the rectum. However, there are dangers to drugs and people need to be aware of them before any kind of experimentation.

yes, i'm well aware of that...

LSD is ok, but you can get what is called a 'Bad Trip', which is a terrifying experience, this is why I have never taken it.
Marijuana is more of a risk because it is usually smoked with tobacco. If you must try it, I recommend you take it in a manner that doesn't involve tobacco.
Magic Mushrooms are unusual, some people they don't affect, other people they have a profound effect on, once again, it's down to personal choice.

rule number 1 about LSD, from what i gathered from reading various articles, do not ever ever take LSD if your mind is in a boggled state or you're ****ed up at that moment....

I don't recommend drugs, not because they are not enjoyable or fun sometimes, but because I could not, in all good conscience, suggest trying them to people when I have no idea how susceptible to addiction you are. If you are the sort of person who, once they find something they like, tend to spend the next 6 days doing nothing else, then avoid drugs, because you stand a fair chance of getting addicted. If you are capable of putting down something you enjoy in order to get on with real life, then the problem is far less.

appreciated mate


i'd like to thank anyone giving tips about this, as it is much more helpfull than those stupid "Drugs are bad, mkay." stuff they usually yell out around here... (my town i mean, i swear to god, if they send me to another seminar about how drugs are bad i'm going to kill somebody, as those seminars usually involve veeeeery gross picture...)

[neoterran]

LSD and Mushrooms are NOT addictive drugs.

LSD has a tolerance factor where if you try to take it again after you have taken it within a short period of time (about 3 days to a week) you need to take double the dose to get any effect. and the next time double again, etc. It is not physically addictive, and I haven't found it psychologically addictive (although you may enjoy the experience, which may lead you to want to take it again) This is the same for Mushrooms. If you eat Mushrooms containing Psilocybin and Psilocin, you WILL have a trip of 6 to 8 hours or more. Those that have no experience took fake mushrooms.

With both LSD and Mushrooms it is possible to have a bad trip. I have had several bad experiences and several profound experiences on psychedelic drugs. Your mental state, the setting you take the drugs in and what occurs during the time you take them and the people you take them with have the most effect on whether you will have a good or a bad time. You are much, much better off taking LSD if you are worried about a bad trip, because in my experience, mushrooms tend to cause worse trips because they make you feel physically ill (puking) unlike LSD which does not. This is due to other posions in the mushroom itself, but it can affect your mental state, which needs to be solid in order for you to even consider a psychedelic drug. You should NEVER take ANY psychoactive drug if you have any history of mental illness, take a Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor, have ADHD or ADD, or another similar disorder or nervous system disorder, or are on any type of medication.

Marijuana can be moderately psychologically addictive. I know this for a fact. It is not physically addictive, like heroin, where if you stop taking it you will be unable to eat, sleep, or stop thinking about getting heroin. But if you smoke marijuana every day for a month and then stop, you will think about wanting to take more and get grumpy. This lasts for about 2 or 3 days and you're over it. For this reason you should not smoke marijana every day (also the tar and chemicals when you burn marijuana may cause lung cancer, think about that... but much less risk than cigs becasue you don't smoke them everyday and you smoke much less marijana than you do with tobacco)

Ecstasy is a weird drug. It is not physically addictive, although i have seen people abuse it and take large quantities, but not because they were addicted to it, but because they enjoyed it. For me, the magic of MDMA is lost after about 10 to 15 times. After that its not as much fun to take anymore, you still feel its effects but they don't seem as amazing or as profound as the first times. It's certainly not in the league of any of the other addictive drugs like cocaine, or heroin.

Alcohol is a drug that can cause physically and psychological dependance. However if you moderate your intake and do not drink more than a few times a week at most, you will not get any of these symptoms. Usually it takes a long time of constant drinking to get dependance. Some people are more addicted to it than others. I'm not one of these people. As with many drugs however, those abusing alcohol or who have a dependence on it will not realize the extent to which they're dependant on the drug. This is exacerbated by alcohol's legal and socially acceptable status. It is a dangerous drug and you should give it respect and be careful with it. Definately don't mix alcohol with other drugs.

[Flipside]

I've seen people get phsychologically addicted to Shrooms, one of them used the excuse that they'd had a 'truth' revealed to them, but couldn't remember it, and kept taking Shrooms to try and refind the 'Truth'. But it's very much about the mental makeup of the person themselves.

The most damaging drugs are probably Alcohol and Tobacco, one of them can bring out bouts of violence or suicidal depression, the other is a massive health risk and almost as addictive as Heroin.

[neoterran]

Personally, I enjoy Marijuana. I feel it should not be legalized however, because its effects depend upon the psychological state of the individual, which can vary. Some people are already bloody mental and shouldnt' take any drugs at all. I don't think those caught with MJ should be punished severely, simply pay a fine and have their stuff confiscated (many cops will attest to the fact they smoke unreported marijuana stolen from teenagers  )

I don't like to be around people when i'm high on marijuana, becuase it makes me feel pretty stupid sometimes and awkward, and you do get paranoiac feelings which you have to learn to ignore. I enjoy it for its' spacializing effect on music and I enjoy unwinding after a long day, smoking a big fat joint and listening to music. And this is only once in a while, I don't do it often.

The other drugs i have experimented with, I no longer have a need to do any of them, and I don't like drinking much, except sometimes you have to have a pint or a glass because other people get uncomfortable if you don't 

[neoterran]

I've seen people get phsychologically addicted to Shrooms, one of them used the excuse that they'd had a 'truth' revealed to them, but couldn't remember it, and kept taking Shrooms to try and refind the 'Truth'. But it's very much about the mental makeup of the person themselves.

The most damaging drugs are probably Alcohol and Tobacco, one of them can bring out bouts of violence or suicidal depression, the other is a massive health risk and almost as addictive as Heroin.

Yes, but psychological addiction refers to the drug making people want to take more of it. I'm pretty certain they're only going through a phase with those drugs (I went through a tripping phase where i took acid all summer long and such for a year) but this is just the person really.

Psychologically addictive drugs like Marijuana - there are people that swear by smoking MJ every single day for the rest of their life - and do it ! that's a true psychological addiction. Try doing that with LSD or shrooms - you'd end up in the loony bin !

There is something about Marijuana that has a symbiotic relationship with humans. Have you noticed potheads always get into "growing" their own supply - this is certainly the influence of the plant wanting humans to help it spread and procreate. THC is shaped exactly like receptors in the human brain - one of the ONLY plant based chemicals to have such an unusual shaped receptor. It's designed for human consumption. Shrooms and LSD work by inhibiting the brains' adsorbtion of serotonin - a naturally occuring chemical in the brain - so it's not the same as those... anyway now i'm getting into my crazy Weed Plants take over the world theory...

[Flipside]

Yup, my favourite was Marijuana, and, whilst I don't buy it myself any more, I will not say no if someone offers me a toke. I've worked with kids who are on Marijuana every day and your observation is 100% accurate, if you smoke it every day you become reclusive and paranoid, though part of that paranoia comes from the fact that the pastime is illegal, and you are more aware of it when you are under the effect of it, so going home stoned from your mates house can be a harrowing experience.

True about the Shrooms, it may well only be a short-term 'binge', we used to have nights like that, but nonetheless, do it with the wrong substance and it can be dangerous.

[Goober5000]

I believe people shouldn't do drugs but they should be legal anyway.  Figure that out.

(FYI, the only non-medicinal drug I've ever had is alcohol.)

[Polpolion]

alcohol != drugs
stop saying that they do. Anything thats legal shouldn't count.



Sorry, but it's funny hearing you guys say "I like Marujiana" or "I want to try <drug here>"

[Flipside]

So Tobacco isn't a drug either?

It's the fact that people don't want to see alcohol as a drug that makes it 10 times more dangerous to be honest. It works by poisoning you and affecting your perceptions whilst in a poisoned delerium, that's why you feel so awful after a binge and why too much will kill you through Alcohol poisoning.