[redmenace]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14051364/

Stupid Bush, Stupid Congress, Stupid Homeland Security, Stupid Dishonest Contractors

[aldo_14]

Don't forget the stupid war and global destabilisation!

[redmenace]

The world was already destabilized and all wars are inherently stupid.

[Mefustae]

I'd be lying if I said I found this development in any way surprising.

[Rictor]

Defense contractors? Corruption? That's unpossible! The entire military/security industry is little more than a way for corrupt public officials to transfer large amounts of money from the public purse to their buddies in the defense industry. Despite being the most powerful military on Earth, America is still getting like ten times less than it paid for. If Russia had a 500bn/year  military spending, they would have conquered the world long ago and would be on their way to Mars by now.

[Colonol Dekker]

That's unpossible!

Yes quite,

Corruption is part of everyday life. Its just the way the world works, Think of forums as microcosms of life, (not this one for the following examples but you will see what i mean) There is inherent hate in some people that will just stem forth and present itself at hapless individuals. In the same place people will happily potter about unknowing of things going on two feet from the (board space-tiime) People just need to dabble in crime now and then, its our nature (as a species not individual)..

[Flipside]

Dumb enough to do it, smart enough to know it's wrong.

Oh, what a piece of work is man.....

[karajorma]

Defense contractors? Corruption? That's unpossible! The entire military/security industry is little more than a way for corrupt public officials to transfer large amounts of money from the public purse to their buddies in the defense industry. Despite being the most powerful military on Earth, America is still getting like ten times less than it paid for. If Russia had a 500bn/year  military spending, they would have conquered the world long ago and would be on their way to Mars by now.

Well then. We should be really happy that the Americans are a corrupt bunch then. It's not our money going down the drain after all

[redmenace]

The thing about homeland security is the fact that is was hastily put together. That and the fact that contract specialists and officers and are becoming more and more rare these days. It will get worse when the babyboomers retire. The US Gov't just doesn't have enough to be any way effective. This is how messes like this develop.

In regaurds to Russia. If they had that much money they would either, loose it like nuclear weapons, or corrupt party officials would take their share.

Also, don't equate HLS and the Defense Department.

[Mefustae]

In regaurds to Russia. If they had that much money they would either, loose it like nuclear weapons...

Jeez, misplace a few small nuclear weapons and it haunts you for life.

[brozozo]

You know, the Department of Homeland Security sounds like some contraption from a George Orwell novel. Thank goodness they can't get their **** together.

[redmenace]

I am not part of the DHS...or do you mean you[as in personalization]

[brozozo]

Wow, I completely forgot to type a word. I'll go back and fix that.

[Harbinger of DOOM]

Bush's legacy..........
The longest stream of bull**** ever recorded.
Period.

[Ulala]

Makes you wonder how things would've gone without 9/11..

[redmenace]

We would be less in debt for starters.

[Bobboau]

IIRC, red, you were always more on the conservitive side of the bench, weren't you?
(note this is not to be construde as and implication of you being a 'coolaid drinker' or anything other than clarification on your general political position)

[redmenace]

I WAS, and my thoughts in some regaurds are still considered "conservative" by others. But I am actually libertarian, which is odd, since I work for the DoD. I try to recogncile this by being the best civil servant I can. But there were a number of issues that have really challenged my thinking and forced me to abandon my allegence to the republican party. Things like throwing up barriers to trade while demanding that everyone else not do so has really made me angry. I do not favor trying to protect US Companies as such. I also have renounced my membership publically here on the boards. I didn't even vote for a presidential canidate in 2004. Now, just because I don't vote republican doesn't mean I am going to vote democrat either, but had I the opportunity when I was younger I would have voted for Mike O'Pake, state legislator, from Pennsylvania.

[Mars]

Picks up a piece of sky from the ground and glares at Bush.

[aldo_14]

I WAS, and my thoughts in some regaurds are still considered "conservative" by others. But I am actually libertarian, which is odd, since I work for the DoD. I try to recogncile this by being the best civil servant I can. But there were a number of issues that have really challenged my thinking and forced me to abandon my allegence to the republican party. Things like throwing up barriers to trade while demanding that everyone else not do so has really made me angry. I do not favor trying to protect US Companies as such. I also have renounced my membership publically here on the boards. I didn't even vote for a presidential canidate in 2004. Now, just because I don't vote republican doesn't mean I am going to vote democrat either, but had I the opportunity when I was younger I would have voted for Mike O'Pake, state legislator, from Pennsylvania.

I think if you (were to) ever get to the stage of defining political philosophies by party rather than party by political philosophy, you're screwed anyways.  After all, what would Labour make socialism be, then?