[aldo_14]

I don't respect veterans any more - or less - than I do police, firemen, etc.  I don't believe we should idolise soldiers as infallible patriotic heroes, not do I believe we should castigate them for - for example - fighting in wars like Iraq when their role depends on their following orders (even if the war is manifestly illegal, the responsibility and liability for that lies with the politicians).

[Mefustae]

Substitute "killed foreign people" with "put myself in harm's way" and you'll understand why I hold them in high respect.

Could you do any better? I put myself in harms way when I cross the street in Balmain, or walk through an alley in Redfern at night, do I deserve a parade?

[Ford Prefect]

People look for heroes because it allows them to pretend that things like war are anything more than an absurd horror-- a horror to which we subject ourselves because we can't even comprehend any other way of moving history. But I get the impression that the soldiers themselves are generally the first ones to be cursed with a more accurate sense of perspective. There will always be those-- like Kurtz in Heart of Darkness-- who, when faced with human brutality, give up pretending that notions of good and evil make any sense. For those of us who would rather not think about the truths with which they come face-to-face, our only option is to call them crazy, condemn their occasional public handiwork, and forget about it.

[Nuke]

this was the reason i attempted to join the marines, but when they got my psycological profile they decided not to let me in. oh well

Now, why does that not surprise me in the least, mister 'nuke the word and let God sort 'em out'?

that almost works but you forget i do not believe in god.

[Nuclear1]

Substitute "killed foreign people" with "put myself in harm's way" and you'll understand why I hold them in high respect.

Could you do any better? I put myself in harms way when I cross the street in Balmain, or walk through an alley in Redfern at night, do I deserve a parade?

Nearly every single veteran, current member of the military, or recruit that I've had the pleasure of speaking with has said that their cause for enlisting was to fight for freedom, protect the innocent, and bring justice to the evil. It's when somebody does something or assumes great personal danger to ensure the safety or well-being of others or for something greater than themselves that I see them as a genuine hero (firefighters, police officers, soldiers, and the like all fall into this category).

[FSW]

There will always be nutjobs in the army. It is, after all, the army. If you were afraid of killing people, helping others to kill people, or showing people that you could kill, why would you join? That is what the army does, even if it is for a 'good' cause ultimately.

[Mefustae]

People look for heroes because it allows them to pretend that things like war are anything more than an absurd horror-- a horror to which we subject ourselves because we can't even comprehend any other way of moving history. But I get the impression that the soldiers themselves are generally the first ones to be cursed with a more accurate sense of perspective. There will always be those-- like Kurtz in Heart of Darkness-- who, when faced with human brutality, give up pretending that notions of good and evil make any sense. For those of us who would rather not think about the truths with which they come face-to-face, our only option is to call them crazy, condemn their occasional public handiwork, and forget about it.

Ah, thankyou, that makes sense.

[Charismatic]

I know some ppl joining the army just to kill some ****ing iraqies.

Is that in an approving or condemning tone?

Well, i think the war is waste of money\time. I think 'go ahead and kill those ****in iraqies', as they are of no matter to me. I think military sux. Goverment spys on us and sux. Yay for NASA (unrelated comment).
I, I like girls.

How stoned are you? Or are you actually being racist/anarchist/peacenik?

No not stoned. Just my thoughts. Racist? No, their irrevalant to the existance of my life, which is going to work and going to my moms and playing video games. Anarchist? Definition please. Isnt that someoen obsessed with fire and starting fires?
How am i  a peacenik? I think America should go and dominate the world. World domination by USA FTW! I think our military sux cause they will eventually agree with the gov and one day imprision us all and become a dictatorship. They will presecute christians like jews in the holocost. (Wont say any more, so if u dont want any religon talk, dont reply to that.) Our military messes around with **** it shouldent. I would never join the military. It would be a sin agienst myself personally. Id like to be a pilot, a fighter pilot, so joining Air Force would be only way sides NASA *true dream to be a space Pilot\fighter pilot* to achieve that. Maby one day tho. Maby one day we will discover the shivans are real and then i can be a space fighter pilot FTW!

[Mefustae]

They will presecute christians like jews in the holocost.

Man, I love that picture.

[Nuke]

They will presecute christians like jews in the holocost.

sounds like a plan to me

[aldo_14]

No not stoned. Just my thoughts. Racist? No, their irrevalant to the existance of my life, which is going to work and going to my moms and playing video games. Anarchist? Definition please. Isnt that someoen obsessed with fire and starting fires?
How am i  a peacenik? I think America should go and dominate the world. World domination by USA FTW! I think our military sux cause they will eventually agree with the gov and one day imprision us all and become a dictatorship. They will presecute christians like jews in the holocost. (Wont say any more, so if u dont want any religon talk, dont reply to that.) Our military messes around with **** it shouldent. I would never join the military. It would be a sin agienst myself personally. Id like to be a pilot, a fighter pilot, so joining Air Force would be only way sides NASA *true dream to be a space Pilot\fighter pilot* to achieve that. Maby one day tho. Maby one day we will discover the shivans are real and then i can be a space fighter pilot FTW!

"World Domination by the US FTW"?

[Colonol Dekker]

GTNW FTW !!!!!!

[Krackers87]

I know some ppl joining the army just to kill some ****ing iraqies.

Is that in an approving or condemning tone?

Well, i think the war is waste of money\time. I think 'go ahead and kill those ****in iraqies', as they are of no matter to me. I think military sux. Goverment spys on us and sux. Yay for NASA (unrelated comment).
I, I like girls.

How stoned are you? Or are you actually being racist/anarchist/peacenik?

No not stoned. Just my thoughts. Racist? No, their irrevalant to the existance of my life, which is going to work and going to my moms and playing video games. Anarchist? Definition please. Isnt that someoen obsessed with fire and starting fires?
How am i  a peacenik? I think America should go and dominate the world. World domination by USA FTW! I think our military sux cause they will eventually agree with the gov and one day imprision us all and become a dictatorship. They will presecute christians like jews in the holocost. (Wont say any more, so if u dont want any religon talk, dont reply to that.) Our military messes around with **** it shouldent. I would never join the military. It would be a sin agienst myself personally. Id like to be a pilot, a fighter pilot, so joining Air Force would be only way sides NASA *true dream to be a space Pilot\fighter pilot* to achieve that. Maby one day tho. Maby one day we will discover the shivans are real and then i can be a space fighter pilot FTW!

Every time im back here for more than 5 minutes, somones always tempting me to do something to get me in trouble with the admins.


Of course the military agrees with the government, they are the government. Where do you think their paychecks come from?

Iraqis do affect you you inconsiderit jackhole, every person in the world affects you in one insignificant way or the other, and you best believe a whole country of people is going to have some affect on you. On top of that, these are PEOPLE, not pixelated geometrical shapes on your tv screen.

A pyro is someone who loves fire, an anarchist believes in no goverment or any kind of order.

Practicaly everyone in the government and armed forces, and US at that is christian or one of those other ridiculous too numerous to list offbranches of christianity, so are youre trying to say theyre all gonna lock themselves up?

Im going to restrain myself here by sayingwhat you are, but instead, i'll tell you what youre not ..

Decent, intelligent, somone with a basic understanding of english words, somone who conjugates thoughts from real life facts, and someone who has a basic idea and understanding of the world they live in.

But unfortunately you are literate..

[aldo_14]

He is?

[Krackers87]

He is?

Either that, or theres two of em, one working the keyboard and the other working the mouth hole behind him

[Colonol Dekker]

Underscore hole?

[Night Hammer]

asshole..ffs


charismatic, you cant really be as stupid in r/l as you show on these forums

I think America should go and dominate the world. World domination by USA FTW! I think our military sux cause they will eventually agree with the gov and one day imprision us all and become a dictatorship.

read that again, then ask yourself, how would we dominate without a military?

They will presecute christians like jews in the holocost

i just want to punch you after i read that. you cant seriously believe that nonsense spouting from your head

damn i hate you

[Kosh]

Back on topic, Army recruiting standards have gotten pretty low. I've heard they bumped the max recruiting age pretty high are also are willing to accept people with some "mental issues". I'm not surprised a guy like this would get in there.

[Night Hammer]

army recruiting standards have never been high, theyll also bend/break their own rules if it fills their recruitment quota

[Turambar]

they also lie to people to encourage them to join.  my friend, who is an MP, caught a recruiter telling a kid that he wouldnt be sent to iraq.
bastards.