[Grey Wolf]

yes.. $DIETY forbid we talk about a subject that makes you uncomfortable

and apparently aldo forbids it to since he keeps posting off-topic comments in that thread when I made this one for all your offtopic kazan baiting needs

I just keep on thinking about that, what, 10+ page thread you made claiming your parents infringed on your rights as a human beign by circumcizing you? Isn't putting everyone through that once enough?

[aldo_14]

It's not my fault if you say daft things.

it's not my fault you're a ****ing moron with a stick up your ass that doesn't know the difference between a daft statement and one that makes you uncomfortable

how about you sod off *****boy

Ah, like so.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case*.

*because it's quite heavy.  Has my lunch in it, y'see

EDIT; A rigid object up my buttocks?  Good lord.  Please, son, enough of your fantasy life.  It's giving me chills.  I know you lust for me and all that, but I really don't want to be your *****.  I know it's hard to accept, and I'm sure you're a very nice person underneath the gibbering insane rants, but I just don't swing that way.

[Kazan]

I just keep on thinking about that, what, 10+ page thread you made claiming your parents infringed on your rights as a human beign by circumcizing you? Isn't putting everyone through that once enough?

And what is wrong with that? can't handle the subject of genital mutilation and how it's wrong?  Can't get the idea that i'm trying to stop it?

What the **** is your issue? seriouesly - people cannot deal with talking about this issue, they start acting like ****ing ten year olds *cough*aldo*cough*

[Grey Wolf]

How about because you go in like a blithering idiot, screaming about how your parents violated you? Debate things sensibly instead of acting like one of those idiotic pundits on TV.

[Kazan]

Ah, like so.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case*.

I could make an absolutely mindbogglingly brilliant statement, and you'd say it was a daft statement - sod off

[Unknown Target]

OMG KAZAN'S FIANCEE HAS TEH HIPPY BUSH!

[Kazan]

How about because you go in like a blithering idiot, screaming about how your parents violated you? Debate things sensibly instead of acting like one of those idiotic pundits on TV.

How can I debate things when the "opposition" isn't attacking my argument but me?  A couple of people manage to come up with supposed counterexamples and then call me arrogant when I shoot down their counterexample in 10 seconds, with specific details of the flaws of their counterexample, because I was already familiar with it and it's flaws *cough*goober*cough*

How are my statements "going in like a blithering idiot" when I made the assertion "Circumcision is a violation of the boy's rights" and then I backup that statement with evidence?

Am I in ****ing bizarro world?

I'm not the one being incapable of rationally thinking on this subject - last time I checked making a statement then backing it up with evidence is the definition of rational thought - just because I feel strongly on the subject doesn't mean i'm wrong, i feel strongly on the subject because the evidence inspires those strong feelings - not the other way around

[Grey Wolf]

You realize you're being a hypocrite by attacking everyone else?

Incidentally, I was commenting on your past debates. I've yet to investigate your current debate.

[Kazan]

I'm attacking their behavior - my "current" debate was locked by Fury for no good reason since UT and a couple others were trolling me, and I was failing to respond, so i resurrected an old one, and now people have dragged it off topic.

[Kamikaze]

It probably wouldn't have been locked if you'd lightened the tone a bit. You're perceived as abrasive and harsh even by those who agree with your arguments.

[aldo_14]

I just keep on thinking about that, what, 10+ page thread you made claiming your parents infringed on your rights as a human beign by circumcizing you? Isn't putting everyone through that once enough?

And what is wrong with that? can't handle the subject of genital mutilation and how it's wrong?  Can't get the idea that i'm trying to stop it?

What the **** is your issue? seriouesly - people cannot deal with talking about this issue, they start acting like ****ing ten year olds *cough*aldo*cough*

I'm sorry, I'll cancel my waiting list for patients and put away the genital shears.

Who do you think you're going to convince?  All you do is ****ing rant about how bad the world is, and how it needs changed, and then post it on an internet forum. (!)  How on earth are capital letter statements and latin terms going to change the world?  Who here is in any position to make any sort of meaningful impact, anyways?  Do you expect us to go and preach about your views on circumcision on the streets or something?  All you're doing is ranting and raving about a your own opinion on something, and we're all perfectly bloody capable of forming an opinion without requiring your spittle-flecked ravings, thankyouverymuch. 

And let me be honest here, your particularly unique method of delivering these opinions makes me feel instinctually inclined to take the diametrically opposed position; and I'm so sick of your insulting and immature behaviour as we see in this very thread in responding to any form of criticism, that I can't even take you seriously enough to want to debate, ergo I prefer to take the piss and watch you explode like a 6 year old whose mummy won't let him have pudding before he finishes dinner.

(and this is, incidentally, why I slapped and kept you as the single name on my ICQ & PM ignore list; if you want to come and insult me, have the guts to do it in public, sunshine, because I'm not intimidate by the size of your ego)

EDIT; not sure I need to add anything to this, I've pretty much said my piece.

[Night Hammer]

all this for snipped willys

its skin not a big deal

[aldo_14]

On a completely unrelated note, I have a couple of asbestos all-body suits lying about.  Anyone fancy buying one?

[Kazan]

Who do you think you're going to convince?

people who will be parents some day

  All you do is ****ing rant about how bad the world is, and how it needs changed, and then post it on an internet forum.

yeah where other people read my posts.  What is it with this presumption that "posting on the internet does nothing" - people read those posts

(!)  How on earth are capital letter statements and latin terms going to change the world?

A) I use the latin terms because they're efficient
B) because people are reading them

  Who here is in any position to make any sort of meaningful impact, anyways?

anyone who is going to be a parent someday - anyone who is going to be a voter someday

  Do you expect us to go and preach about your views on circumcision on the streets or something?

no, i expect you to listen to common sense and good science and not cut off a healthy part of the penis of any little boys you parent and try to discourage your siblings/friends from doing so

All you're doing is ranting and raving about a your own opinion on something, and we're all perfectly bloody capable of forming an opinion without requiring your spittle-flecked ravings, thankyouverymuch. 

which is why I post the evidence!

And let me be honest here, your particularly unique method of delivering these opinions makes me feel instinctually inclined to take the diametrically opposed position;

and what "unique method" would that be? the method in which I make an assertion and back it up with evidence?

and I'm so sick of your insulting and immature behaviour

hypocrite - you're the one that comes to my threads, insults me, derails them, and trolls

as we see in this very thread

by calling you out for your poor behavior?

in responding to any form of criticism,

perhaps if you actually came out with a VALID criticism instead of just insults and trolls, I may listen to you.  Please I challenge you to come out with a reasonable and valid criticism.

that I can't even take you seriously enough to want to debate, ergo I prefer to take the piss and watch you explode like a 6 year old whose mummy won't let him have pudding before he finishes dinner.

yeah calling you out for trolling is "exploding like a 6 year old" yup.

[Kazan]

all this for snipped willys

its skin not a big deal

no it's not just skin, this is one of the oldest fallacies in the argument.  I cannot really blame people for making it as they have been misinformed. Here is a short/succinct list of what is lost http://www.noharmm.org/advantage.htm

saying "the foreskin is just skin" is like saying "the clitoris and clitoral hood are just skin"

[Night Hammer]

well technically they are (not so much the first one)

[Kazan]

if you want to extremely grossly oversimplify to the point of fallacy? sure

they're comprised of normal skin and mucosal skin, with an extremely high level of innervation.  Technically your lips are just skin, but your parents don't get to cut them off.  it's illegal to cut a little girls genitals

[Night Hammer]

well its good to know your spot on with little girls genitals

[Kazan]

girl* genitals are the best  



* age restriction: age >= 18

[aldo_14]

Who do you think you're going to convince?

people who will be parents some day

  All you do is ****ing rant about how bad the world is, and how it needs changed, and then post it on an internet forum.

yeah where other people read my posts.  What is it with this presumption that "posting on the internet does nothing" - people read those posts

(!)  How on earth are capital letter statements and latin terms going to change the world?

A) I use the latin terms because they're efficient
B) because people are reading them

  Who here is in any position to make any sort of meaningful impact, anyways?

anyone who is going to be a parent someday - anyone who is going to be a voter someday

  Do you expect us to go and preach about your views on circumcision on the streets or something?

no, i expect you to listen to common sense and good science and not cut off a healthy part of the penis of any little boys you parent and try to discourage your siblings/friends from doing so

All you're doing is ranting and raving about a your own opinion on something, and we're all perfectly bloody capable of forming an opinion without requiring your spittle-flecked ravings, thankyouverymuch. 

which is why I post the evidence!

And let me be honest here, your particularly unique method of delivering these opinions makes me feel instinctually inclined to take the diametrically opposed position;

and what "unique method" would that be? the method in which I make an assertion and back it up with evidence?

and I'm so sick of your insulting and immature behaviour

hypocrite - you're the one that comes to my threads, insults me, derails them, and trolls

as we see in this very thread

by calling you out for your poor behavior?

in responding to any form of criticism,

perhaps if you actually came out with a VALID criticism instead of just insults and trolls, I may listen to you.  Please I challenge you to come out with a reasonable and valid criticism.

that I can't even take you seriously enough to want to debate, ergo I prefer to take the piss and watch you explode like a 6 year old whose mummy won't let him have pudding before he finishes dinner.

yeah calling you out for trolling is "exploding like a 6 year old" yup.

Still going, huh?  What do you think you'll achieve?