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Offline Kosh

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networking help
on: August 14, 2006, 10:11:39 pm
Ok, last night my main computer decided to have some serious problems, namly after 5 minutes on the internet it would crap out saying that svchost.exe was having some problems and needed to close (which basically kills the internet). I am pretty sure this is just more bitrot problems, so I think it is time for a reformat.


The problem is that I am trying to find a way to back-up everything I want to keep. My CD-burner is broken, I don't have the time to fix it or the money to buy a new one. I was thinking about using a direct cable connection from that computer to this one, but the only cable I have is a UDP patch cable that came with the DSL modem. My question is, will this work or will I need to buy a networking cable?


EDIT: Crap, looks like bitrot isn't the issue. I'm also havin the same problem on this computer after I set up the DSL connection. The really wierd thing is that if I leave the error window open, the internet will continue to work for a couple of minutes. Anyone have any ides for this one too?

EDIT2: It seems that installing the ISP software will fix this problem, but I really don't understand why. I don't want to use it for a couple of reasons, so does anyone have any idea on how to make the windows networking stuff work?
« Last Edit: August 14, 2006, 11:33:39 pm by Kosh »
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Descenterace

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Re: networking help
Reply #1 on: August 15, 2006, 12:34:12 am
Is it definitely a UTP patch cable and not a phone cable?
Assuming it is an RJ-45 UTP patch cable, you'll still need a crossover adapter to connect two computers with it. Such adapters are about 2 or 3 dollars.

Regarding the error: are you sure it's not a virus? Sasser is pretty rare now and the vulnerability has been patched, but it used to cause a problem like this in an unpatched or SP1 machine.
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Offline BlackDove

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Re: networking help
Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 01:03:16 am
To fix this problem.

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Offline Nuke

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Re: networking help
Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 01:05:37 am
it sounds like you killed a neccisary service. what services have you disabled?
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Offline Kosh

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Re: networking help
Reply #4 on: August 15, 2006, 02:23:25 am
I haven't killed or disabled anything. It started doing that by itself.

This machine is a SP2 install.


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Is it definitely a UTP patch cable and not a phone cable?

I'm not a n00b at this, of course I know that it is a UDP cable. I've just never done a "direct connect" before.


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Regarding the error: are you sure it's not a virus? Sasser is pretty rare now and the vulnerability has been patched, but it used to cause a problem like this in an unpatched or SP1 machine.

If it was, then why does it work after I install the ISP softare and use their program?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Kazan

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Re: networking help
Reply #5 on: August 15, 2006, 02:26:02 pm
actually this could be a bad driver for the network card, or a network card going bad
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Offline Kosh

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Re: networking help
Reply #6 on: August 15, 2006, 09:59:37 pm
That doesn't explain why it works fine if I use the software my ISP provides.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Descenterace

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Re: networking help
Reply #7 on: August 16, 2006, 12:58:30 am
Quote from: Kosh on August 15, 2006, 02:23:25 am
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Is it definitely a UTP patch cable and not a phone cable?

I'm not a n00b at this, of course I know that it is a UDP cable. I've just never done a "direct connect" before.

The use of 'UDP' instead of 'UTP' threw me. UDP is a network protocol. UTP is the most common type of ethernet cable.

Quote from: Kosh on August 15, 2006, 02:23:25 am
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Regarding the error: are you sure it's not a virus? Sasser is pretty rare now and the vulnerability has been patched, but it used to cause a problem like this in an unpatched or SP1 machine.

If it was, then why does it work after I install the ISP softare and use their program?

Damaged files being replaced by the installer.
'And anyway, I agree - no sig images means more post, less pictures. It's annoying to sit through 40 different sigs telling about how cool, deadly, or assassin like a person is.' --Unknown Target

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"Bill Gates avoids it at every possible opportunity?"
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