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Offline Kosh

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http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/21/dark-matter-exists/

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The great accomplishment of late-twentieth-century cosmology was putting together a complete inventory of the universe. We can tell a story that fits all the known data, in which ordinary matter (every particle ever detected in any experiment) constitutes only about 5% of the energy of the universe, with 25% being dark matter and 70% being dark energy. The challenge for early-twenty-first-century cosmology will actually be to understand the nature of these mysterious dark components. A beautiful new result illuminating (if you will) the dark matter in galaxy cluster 1E 0657-56 is an important step in this direction. (Here’s the press release, and an article in the Chandra Chronicles.)

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Re: D4rK M4Tt3R 15 R34L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111oneoneoneoneone
Cosmic M&M's, man. i'm sure there's Green matter, red, blue, yellow, and so on.
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Cosmic M&M's, man. i'm sure there's Green matter, red, blue, yellow, and so on.

Yeah, but do the orange ones taste different?

 

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Cosmic M&M's, man. i'm sure there's Green matter, red, blue, yellow, and so on.

Yeah, but do the orange ones taste different?

they prolly taste like everything else....






Like Chicken.
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They didn't know what chicken tastes like, so they made everything taste like chicken......



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They didn't know what chicken tastes like, so they made everything taste like chicken......



:nervous:

'cept McD's burger patties... which tastes like cardboard..





Consequentially, cardboard tastes like chicken.
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nukes cosmic theory: the universe is made out of chicken :D
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Alas, it didn't come with any spice, or even a dip.

 

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But it sure did come fully equipped with more than sufficient amount of dip****s... :p


Joking aside, the terms are really really cool. Dark energy, dark matter... I wonder where they come up with this, it's almost as good as fictional techno-babble. Names for particles are another constant source of admiration. I wonder when they'll run out of Greek letters. Then they have a difficult decision to make. Whether to start naming particles at all or just numbering them. Or perhaps they start using Tolkien's elven writing marks...
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"Dark matter" isn't a technobabble name; it's a pragmatic one. The whole point of dark matter is that it isn't visible like other matter is, because dark matter only interacts with other matter through gravity.
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Woot, another leap in the forward direction for darkmatter.  Now all we need to do is determine what the darkmatter actually IS, or at least some better theories/models to explain how it works.  :)
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in truth, Dark matter is just like any other matter, only emo.  :P
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Alas, it didn't come with any spice, or even a dip.

there is a dip but its in the dimentions beyond :D
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f3@r 7h3 1337 $p3@k3r$!(eleven)

(Be glad for easy-read 1337)

yep, it's just... matter. Or, it's gravitational disturbances appearing from nowhere...

 

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as far as my understanding of string theory goes, dark matter/energy exists in dimentions other than our own set of dimentions and that gravity trancends the dimentional boundries. to us gravity apears weaker than the other 3 forces in the universe. however all forces should be technically equal. if the force of gravity is being scattered and spread thin in extra dimentions, it wouild explain why gravity was weaker. dark matter being extra-dimentional, our only influence over it is through gravity. dark matter is probibly floating around your room right now and you wouldnt know it. but its gravity effects us, and ours affects it, i think.

the chicken theory makes more sence though :D
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They didn't know what chicken tastes like, so they made everything taste like chicken......



:nervous:

'cept McD's burger patties... which tastes like cardboard..





Consequentially, cardboard tastes like chicken.

those burgers are LIFESAVERS.  I'd die if mcdonalds died...

mmm chicken!
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Re: D4rK M4Tt3R 15 R34L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111oneoneoneoneone
as far as my understanding of string theory goes, dark matter/energy exists in dimentions other than our own set of dimentions and that gravity trancends the dimentional boundries. to us gravity apears weaker than the other 3 forces in the universe. however all forces should be technically equal. if the force of gravity is being scattered and spread thin in extra dimentions, it wouild explain why gravity was weaker. dark matter being extra-dimentional, our only influence over it is through gravity. dark matter is probibly floating around your room right now and you wouldnt know it. but its gravity effects us, and ours affects it, i think.

That's the string theory explanation of it. Pretty intriguing, but no evidence of it yet though.
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It's definately there tho. and there is 5 times more non-baryonic matter as there is baryonic matter (us) :(
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The more I learn about it, the more skeptical of String Theory I become.  If it made predictions that could actually be tested I'd take it more seriously.  Otherwise, it really falls under the weight of Occam's razor.  It is far too complicated an explanation.  Quantum Electrodynamics is bad enough on its own, but it at least makes predictions that have been tested over and over again.  Maybe it is naive of me, but my gut feeling is that the rules that govern the universe are actually quite simple.  It is just the implications of those rules that are complicated.  Take any simple set of rules, or even a single rule, and increase the population the rule acts on to a paltry billion and see how complicated that gets.  As N -> infinity things get pretty mind boggling.

Anyway, one thing that does puzzle me for any of the astrophysicists out there: If there is so much dark matter out there, what keeps it from gathering up like stars?  Why is it so diffuse?  Further, if it did gather up like stars, what would stop it from collapsing into singularities?  I mean, the only reason stars don't collapse is because of the outward pressure of radiation from fusion (ok, and degenerate electron pressure in the case of white dwarves etc.)  Seriously.  Any clues?

You know, if there is that much dark matter out there, it stands to reason that stars are probably forming where dark matter draws the necessary gas clouds.  i.e., stars would be forming in the middle of clumps of dark matter.  The point: what if most of the mass of stars isn't baryonic matter at all?

Gah.  Sounds pretty fishy but I'm too tired to find the error(s) in my reasoning.
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perhaps dark matter uses a different time axis or follows different physical rules than we do. perhaps for every piece of matter in the univerce theyre could be another object in a similar space the dark dimentions. another possibility is cross-dimentional spacial asymetry. that is the dark mater spacial plane is distorted relitive to ours, there may be dark stars and planets out there, but it only apears diffuse to us because its distorted. but seeing as the only way we can see dark matter is through gravitiational lensing, there could be large clumps of dark mater out there that we cant even detect. so far all we can detect is diffuse clouds of dark gas on a galactic scale.
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