[Kamikaze]

It's about time: http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01436.html

Still only for women 18 and older though.

[karajorma]

Good.

Personally I reckon that anyone who claims that it will be used as an alternative to other forms of contraception should be forced to take it. That will soon shut them up.

Furthermore I don't even care if they're male either.

[Ford Prefect]

I don't like this. It will only encourage the morally depraved idea that sex is somehow natural and healthy.

[Nuclear1]

I don't like this. It will only encourage the morally depraved idea that sex is somehow natural and healthyintended purely for pleasure, not for reproducing as nature somehow intended it be.

Fixed.

[Cobra]

You know, there's a simple way to avoid unwanted pregnancies: condoms. or, just in case that fails, birth control pills. SIMPLE SOLUTIONS TO SIMPLE PROBLEMS. but then again, there are real ****ing idiots out there who whine and complain when an unwanted baby arrives and dump them in ****ing dumpsters.

in short: HUMAN IGNORANCE.

[Nuclear1]

You know, there's a simple way to avoid unwanted pregnancies: condoms. or, just in case that fails, birth control pills.

Or just not doing altogether and waiting until marriage, when it's supposed to happen.

[Blue Lion]

Supposed to happen?

[Nuclear1]

Supposed to happen?

Worded poorly, yes. My aim is that sex, the act of reproduction and creating children, should only take place when two people are married and able to support children. What it's become is a tool simply for pleasure, with things such as contraceptives only reinforcing the idea.

[Blue Lion]

True, and I'm glad this exists. One more way for me to have sex and not have to worry about kids (which I don't want)

[Rictor]

So Africa, Asia and the Middle-East are all breeding like rabbits, and you all want the West to have less babies?  Under the assumption that political, economic and cultural power on a per-capita basis will be more or less globally equalized within the next say 50 years, we're headed for a demographic catastrohpe. Now don't get me wrong, teenage pregnancies are a bad thing, but it's that or start learning how to say "sir" in Chinese.

[Janos]

You know, there's a simple way to avoid unwanted pregnancies: condoms. or, just in case that fails, birth control pills.

Or just not doing altogether and waiting until marriage, when it's supposed to happen.

why is it supposed to happen just there

answer

[Mr. Vega]

I don't like this. It will only encourage the morally depraved idea that sex is somehow natural and healthyintended purely for pleasure, not for reproducing as nature somehow intended it be.

Fixed.

I think you just proved his point.

[karajorma]

Worded poorly, yes. My aim is that sex, the act of reproduction and creating children, should only take place when two people are married and able to support children. What it's become is a tool simply for pleasure, with things such as contraceptives only reinforcing the idea.

And I suppose you'll be cutting it off the second you have the number of children you want to have then?

Bear in mind that there are lots of married couples who use contraception including morning after pills.

[Mr. Vega]

So Africa, Asia and the Middle-East are all breeding like rabbits, and you all want the West to have less babies?  Under the assumption that political, economic and cultural power on a per-capita basis will be more or less globally equalized within the next say 50 years, we're headed for a demographic catastrohpe. Now don't get me wrong, teenage pregnancies are a bad thing, but it's that or start learning how to say "sir" in Chinese.

Yes. Of course. Look at the birth rate of African countries like Rwanda and Ethiopia. So powerful and prosperous. Oh, wait.

[Rictor]

Yes. Of course. Look at the birth rate of African countries like Rwanda and Ethiopia. So powerful and prosperous. Oh, wait.

Read 'em and weep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_birth_rate

The top 50 are all in Africa, with a few notable exceptions like the Gaza strip and Afghanistan. The poorest breed the most, which is why the West is ****ed.

If I was a given dictatorial powers and a mandate to ensure the power and dominance of my country, the very first thing I would do is take away all the contraception and plunge the country into poverty. Within two decades the population would triple, and within a hundred years I would have the French prime minister giving me foot massages in the hopes of ensuring the continued flow of aid to his Principality of Paris, population 500,000.

Look at China. Pound for pound, they're about as powerful as sub-Saharan Africa, in other words the lowest of the low. But they have 1.3 billion people. China alone could match the population of every other Security Council nation and still have 750 million people left over. It's easy to go from being a poor nation to a rich nation: two or three decades and you can have luxurious shopping malls and annoying yuppies, just like America. But it's a long, hard, sometimes impossible process to go from being a nations with few people to one with many. That takes generations, and either poverty or totalitarianism to keep things on track, preferably both.

[Kamikaze]

condoms. or, just in case that fails, birth control pills. [...] in short: HUMAN IGNORANCE.

Ah, I love irony. Are you sure you know what Plan B is?

Gave you a hint.

[NGTM-1R]

Yes. Of course. Look at the birth rate of African countries like Rwanda and Ethiopia. So powerful and prosperous. Oh, wait.

Read 'em and weep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_birth_rate

The top 50 are all in Africa, with a few notable exceptions like the Gaza strip and Afghanistan. The poorest breed the most, which is why the West is ****ed.

I'd point out that in about a generation all of Africa is going to have AIDs, which basically means they're ****ed regardless.

[Mr. Vega]

Yes. Of course. Look at the birth rate of African countries like Rwanda and Ethiopia. So powerful and prosperous. Oh, wait.

Read 'em and weep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_birth_rate


The top 50 are all in Africa, with a few notable exceptions like the Gaza strip and Afghanistan. The poorest breed the most, which is why the West is ****ed.

If I was a given dictatorial powers and a mandate to ensure the power and dominance of my country, the very first thing I would do is take away all the contraception and plunge the country into poverty. Within two decades the population would triple, and within a hundred years I would have the French prime minister giving me foot massages in the hopes of ensuring the continued flow of aid to his Principality of Paris, population 500,000.

Look at China. Pound for pound, they're about as powerful as sub-Saharan Africa, in other words the lowest of the low. But they have 1.3 billion people. China alone could match the population of every other Security Council nation and still have 750 million people left over. It's easy to go from being a poor nation to a rich nation: two or three decades and you can have luxurious shopping malls and annoying yuppies, just like America. But it's a long, hard, sometimes impossible process to go from being a nations with few people to one with many. That takes generations, and either poverty or totalitarianism to keep things on track, preferably both.

Uh, Rictor, my point was that these poor countries would have a much higher population, were it not for the fact that the birth rate is turning the whole continent into a Mathusian nightmare.

In the long run, regulating the birth rate will give us the advantage.

[Kosh]

You know, there's a simple way to avoid unwanted pregnancies: condoms. or, just in case that fails, birth control pills.

Or just not doing altogether and waiting until marriage, when it's supposed to happen.

Then again, who are you to tell me when I can and cannot "do it" with my girlfriend?

Now don't get me wrong, teenage pregnancies are a bad thing, but it's that or start learning how to say "sir" in Chinese.

That's absurd. It is true that China has a lot of people (too many in fact), but it's population growth is not far from zero right now.

It's easy to go from being a poor nation to a rich nation: two or three decades and you can have luxurious shopping malls and annoying yuppies, just like America

That is BS. Indrustialization is a very painful process. Besides, if that is so, then why hasn't Africa developed yet? Out of control birth rates is one of the things that is strangling development over there.

[Mefustae]

Woah, déjà vu. I am absolutely positive we have had this exact same arguement before, with pretty much identical statements being made.