[Mad Bomber]

*ding!*

Just doin' me part

[Goober5000]

Many debit cards can be used just like credit cards.

[Fury]

Crap.

Visa Electron doesn't seem to be good enough a debit card for PayPal.

Visa Electron works as long as it has the "Visa Certified" logo. I know, I used to use Visa Electron with PayPal years back.

[achtung]

What ways have been considered to make HLP more profitable?

[Fury]

Ads and donations, or do you want we charge hosted projects monthly?

[Stealth]

i need you to tell me what bandwidth you use on a monthly basis, what kind of 'performance' you need.  (for example.  dual opteron 148s (dual cores) with 4 GB of RAM, 600 GB of space, etc.)

also what you're paying per month right now.  and what you'd be paying per month in the ideal situation (i.e. for a server that's up to par... assuming the one you have now isn't).

runtime.  what's "doable" downtime?  2 hours/month? 6 hours/month?  15 minutes/month?

let me know plz

[Sandwich]

IIRC, Paypal allows you in some countries to sign up and add your bank info, and it will exchange money with that if you don't have a credit card.

[Fury]

Stealth, since the plan is to get both HLP and GW into the same server due to financial reasons, it is hard to say what is the optimal hardware. However, I think it is safe to say that even the lowest end dual-core CPU, 1GB RAM and 80GB RAID1 should do fine. As for bandwidth, 1TB per month is pretty safe bet assuming we don't want to move all downloads back to torrents. As for downtime, that greatly depends how much hosting costs.

We now pay $57 per month, that's how much we can afford with ads as long as we would be running Google AdSense. As we aren't now, we can't afford even that, meaning Sandwich has been and still is paying for many months from his own pockets. Anything more than that and we need donations, assuming we will ever be able to run AdSense on hard-light.net again.

[Colonol Dekker]

E-Mail me Fury, we need to talk £££............ 8)

[Fury]

If you want to talk about financial matters, I suggest you PM Sandwich.

[CP5670]

In case you missed my post earlier, look into that Yahoo Ads service and see if it's any good. The guy who runs that Brickshelf site once said that the hosting service costs over $1000 monthly, but the ad revenue is enough to cover it all.

[Fury]

Yahoo ads beta participation requires valid U.S social security or tax id number. AFAIK only Goober would be able to register, assuming we would even get into the beta. I leave that for Sandwich and Goober decide whether they want to get into it.

[Sandwich]

^^^ What he said. ^^^

[CP5670]

Oh, I see. I suppose going back to Gamespy is also impossible at this point?

[Colonol Dekker]

Wasn't this actionplanet at one point?

[Sandwich]

Gamespy was worse than what we're with currently - far worse. Anyone remember the multiple MySQL DB crashes that lost us months of posts?

[Mongoose]

I do have one question: why is Google (apparently) being such a bunch of hardasses over this?  You get a few fraudulent clicks, get one account shut down, make another, and get that shut down as well, just because it's "connected" to the old account?  Real bastardly thing to do, if you ask me.

Money-wise, I don't know if I could help out on a monthly basis, since I'm on essentially little to no income, but I might be able to make a one-time donation for now, if that's at all possible.

[Colonol Dekker]

Gamespy was worse than what we're with currently - far worse. Anyone remember the multiple MySQL DB crashes that lost us months of posts?

I forced it ut of my mind, But now its all flooding back........... My JK47 account 

[DaBrain]

Will we get a donation-o-meter?


I still need to donate. Stupid PayPal registration...

[Goober5000]

Yahoo ads beta participation requires valid U.S social security or tax id number. AFAIK only Goober would be able to register, assuming we would even get into the beta. I leave that for Sandwich and Goober decide whether they want to get into it.

Oh noes!

Okay, I'll have a chat with Sandwich.