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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
You could just use the scale sunction in the converter/exporter as well i assume :)
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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Dark Hunter: I'm guessing that Bitmap makes the backgrounds use additive rendering, while BitmapX uses alpha rendering. So for partially transparent backgrounds (like nebulas), you use Bitmap, and for opaque backgrounds (like Planets), you use BitmapX.

Vengeance: There's a skybox (well skysphere) in mv_models, starfield.pof, that you could look at to see how it works. Bascially its just a box (or sphere) with inverted faces.

 
Re: Can't add new backgrounds
I know that. I use inverted faces all the time when I render space movies in 3ds.
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Offline karajorma

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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Open the mission's .fs2 file in notepad and look for a line that starts:

;;FSO 3.6.9;; $Bitmap List:

If it's there, take it out - newer versions of FRED are putting it in but it does break the background nebulae in the game (at least on this PC).

I have mentioned this in the SCP forum but it's not been replied to.

I took a look at it but I don't see anything wrong with my nebulae. Get a proper report of the problem on Mantis and I'll look into it.
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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Get a proper report of the problem on Mantis and I'll look into it.

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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Well give me a detailed report of the problem and how I can recreate it here at least. And then register for mantis using a non-hotmail e-mail account. Yahoo has been reported to work IIRC.
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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Well give me a detailed report of the problem and how I can recreate it here at least. And then register for mantis using a non-hotmail e-mail account. Yahoo has been reported to work IIRC.

Dude.  Read my original post!  I am not using Hotmail or Yahoo.  I'm using my own email domain, that uses my own email server.

I'll see if I can get a recreatable scenario that causes the problem

 

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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
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it does break the background nebulae in the game

That's not a bug report. Break how? They don't show up at all? The first one is missing? The last one is missing?

Like I said I tried it with a mission of my own and it worked fine.
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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
I'm not sure what your problem is but I'm sure not having anymore problems (except for a small, annoying, but easily avoidable bug). I'm done with this topic but go ahead and figure out these problems here PotzUK. Oh! Karajorma, I only have one question: I pressed the Hide Cues in the ship editor and I can't it to 'unhide'. How do I unhide the cues? This is only a minor problem though, I can just use a different build of FRED to go around this problem but it would be good to know how to fix it if I press it again.

Other than that last problem I have no other questions so finally these are my last pics for this topic. As you can see its all working at last.
 
How unsettling, a red and blue giants close to each other litterally spewing out nebular materials. This place is just dying to be in a heap of trouble. The MediaVPs are working great now. The Hi-Res nebulas are back in and working.



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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Oh! Karajorma, I only have one question: I pressed the Hide Cues in the ship editor and I can't it to 'unhide'. How do I unhide the cues? This is only a minor problem though, I can just use a different build of FRED to go around this problem but it would be good to know how to fix it if I press it again.

It doesn't come back when you press the button again?
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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
No, because its not there anymore... The menu cuts off right under Special Exp and right through Texture Replacement so I can't see the hide cues button again.
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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Which build are you using? Can you get me a screenshot?

It is possible that someone (probably me) forgot to extend the hide cues dialog box when buttons were added but things seem to work perfectly well in 3.6.9 RC 7.
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Offline PotzUK

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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
I got that as well actually, I had to change to a different build of FRED to get it back.  This screenshot is from one of the earlier 3.6.9 RC builds.  The latest build doesn't do it so it looks like it's fixed.  To get it back use the tab button to move the highlight around and press space after each tab press, eventually you'll hit the right button :)

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When I referred to my original post, I meant the one I linked to in the other forum where I told you that Mantis wasn't sending me my password and that I wasn't using Hotmail/Yahoo

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Re: Can't add new backgrounds
Which build are you using? Can you get me a screenshot?

It is possible that someone (probably me) forgot to extend the hide cues dialog box when buttons were added but things seem to work perfectly well in 3.6.9 RC 7.

The build just says 3.6.9. Right now I'm using your 20060517 build for FRED2 only though I think I need to get a recent build now.
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