[Ford Prefect]

It's odd, because in truth, what you are fighting to death for is the right to disagree with them, not their right to be wrong in your opinion

Edit : And heres the killer... in order to fight to the death for someone to have a different opinion, you have to fight against someone who has a different opinion

That's because the universe is a meaningless joke, the nonexistent punchline to which we eternally await.

[Bobboau]

"someone in America suports Nazis therefore I want to kill all the damned Americans cause there all the same!"

ha! oh, the irony.


aaaanyway...were do you live again?

[Goober5000]

I would not fight to the death for Nazi's rights to express themselves. Maybe for purple people's rights to vote, but not for Nazi's.

Then you don't really support free speech, do you?  Just the speech of those you agree with?

[TrashMan]

I don't know, Neo-Nazis don't really offend me. I mean, hell, the world is full of stupid intolerant people, and if I were to go around hating them all my life would be a very bitter one. Besides, the shirt is funny.

Agreed. I actually wanted (and still want) a shirt where a white svastika is on a black background...

[castor]

I think they are doing a favor for us all, in reminding that it is the ordinary people, *we*, who make possible and perform all these acts of ultimate stupidity and ignorance in this world.

[Kosh]

I would not fight to the death for Nazi's rights to express themselves. Maybe for purple people's rights to vote, but not for Nazi's.

Then you don't really support free speech, do you?  Just the speech of those you agree with?

Nazi speech is banned because it is dangerous.

[Janos]

I would not fight to the death for Nazi's rights to express themselves. Maybe for purple people's rights to vote, but not for Nazi's.

Then you don't really support free speech, do you?  Just the speech of those you agree with?

Nazi speech is banned because it is dangerous.

How can speech be dangerous? It's just words, at least if it's not agitation.

[Nuclear1]

I would not fight to the death for Nazi's rights to express themselves. Maybe for purple people's rights to vote, but not for Nazi's.

Then you don't really support free speech, do you?  Just the speech of those you agree with?

Nazi speech is banned because it is dangerous.

You're being sarcastic, right?

If you're not, it's almost painfully ironic.  Labeling Nazi speech as "dangerous" and needing to be banned is the equivalent of the Chinese government blocking Google searches including words such as freedom, or like the US government scrutinzing those who preach communism or anarchy. If it's a threat to the party in power, the government will condemn it as "dangerous", even if it necessarily isn't.

[Mars]

Then you don't really support free speech, do you?  Just the speech of those you agree with?

No, I just don't think their right to free speech it's worth my life 

And no, it's not just people I disagree with, it's the fact that they think genocide is a good thing that makes me not want to have anything to do with them. Homicide can be excused, genocide cannot.

[Ford Prefect]

But they're not committing genocide, nor expressing any specific plans to carry out acts of violence-- they're just talking.

On a related note, when did it become conventional wisdom that genocide begins and ends with Nazism? Nazis aren't the agents of Satan-- they're just another group of people with absurd ideas. And they certainly didn't invent the concept of targeting groups of people and killing them in large numbers. (I personally agree with Charles Mills' theory on why this idea gets perpetuated, but that's another debate.)

[NGTM-1R]

On a related note, when did it become conventional wisdom that genocide begins and ends with Nazism?

They did handle it best.

[Mars]

But they're not committing genocide, nor expressing any specific plans to carry out acts of violence-- they're just talking.

On a related note, when did it become conventional wisdom that genocide begins and ends with Nazism? Nazis aren't the agents of Satan-- they're just another group of people with absurd ideas. And they certainly didn't invent the concept of targeting groups of people and killing them in large numbers. (I personally agree with Charles Mills' theory on why this idea gets perpetuated, but that's another debate.)

Did you read the wiki article on them? All I'm saying is that I'm not dieing so that a couple of stupid Nazi's can talk about killing jews.

[Flipside]

Actually, when it comes to Genocide, the Spanish in South America (though that was largely accidental) and the English in Tasmania leap to mind (about 5000 people, but that was more or less all there was), as well as the Nazis

[Mefustae]

On a related note, when did it become conventional wisdom that genocide begins and ends with Nazism?

They did handle it best.

No they didn't. Granted, they're the most well-publicised, but what of the Stalinit Purges? Religious genocide in the Balkans and Africas? And of course, let's not forget the hyjinx of that old chestnut, the British Empire. The did invent the concentration camp, after all.

Personally, i've always thought of Eastern Europeans to be the best at genocide. 12-15 million Ukrainians dead in the space of a few years, that ain't half bad.

[Polpolion]

I'm going to laugh when these people have no real friends. And when their "band" dies. And when they get turned away from burger king for being racist. And when they become cheap whores. And when they do drugs.

And I'm going to laugh when they realize that they were wrong.

[Mefustae]

Yes, they deserve to suffer for the way they were brought up.

[Ford Prefect]

Well why should they be different from the rest of us in that regard?

*batum-CHING*

[Polpolion]

Should I?

Yes, they deserve to suffer for the way they were brought up.

I think that their parents should be blamed.

[Mefustae]

Yes, they deserve to suffer for the way they were brought up.

Acutally, yes, I belive that they should.

You've got to remember, these are goddamn kids who were quite obviously indoctrinated by their parents, who are the real people to blame here. Research shows that you can bring up a kid to believe anything, that up is down and cats are dogs, and if you keep them in an environment that reinforces these beliefs, why wouldn't they believe it? It's effectively brainwashing, and yet you seem to enjoy the thought that these two might someday wind up as crack-whores.

When they're adults, let the flames fly. Wishing pain and suffering on a couple of kids makes you no better than what they stand for.

[Polpolion]

What? who'd you quote?

And just for reference, their about my age, so it's kinda less bad. And I don't really think it would make me as bad as them if I made fun of them for being extremly racist and supporting mass murderers (even if they don't see themselves like that). It'd be like that kid who makes fun of me for being in marching band, because my older 2 siblings were in it, and I was always forced to watched videos of the competitions. Is he really that evil? And I'm not racist, and I definitly do not support the killing lots and lots people.