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the latter please

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

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Random length and randomly lit, or regular length/pattern and randomly lit?
There's a building on campus like the former.  It's a messed up place.  Course, the art building's worse...

Asymmetry might be interesting, but damn, at least make it symmetrical... *eyeroll*


As to the ship, the latter, I'd say.
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That thing…its just too persistant.

Sadhal thought to himself in between his pants. After a few seconds, his breathing came under control, and the pain subsided. Sadhal couldn’t help but feel a significant amount of fear and apprehension.

 

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I like the trident-style missile launches. :D
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/looks at GTD Hera

I... i feel funny in my pants...
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 

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/looks at GTD Hera

I... i feel funny in my pants...
:eek2:


Too,.....much...................... :ick:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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/looks at GTD Hera

I... i feel funny in my pants...

Yes, well... are you sure we REALLY needed to know that?

small update:  finished plating and lighting one of the main textures( outer engines, bridge, central hull).  Now I have to do the second one, which has all the hard parts (the bow, the stern, the main engines)

After that, it's detailing the spars and the cruiser bay, and then weathering...

And a early version release is in the works... ;) doubt it'll have LODS (every time I try to remove some of the indents, the UVmapping gets screwed up) But it'll work and should have debris.
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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/looks at GTD Hera

I... i feel funny in my pants...

Yes, well... are you sure we REALLY needed to know that?

good GOD, no one knows what a freaking JOKE is.
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 
This is the kind of ship that looks like it'll bring a tear to my eye...

...if I try to bomb it with no shields.

When this comes out, that's so my first test for it. Pit wing after wing after wing of unshielded bombers against it, and see how long it takes to die.

No, I'm not doing it for the carnage, I just hate shields and turn them off when I can, so it's more like dogfighting. >>;

That said, this looks awesome. I can't wait to see more! That flak screen alone sold me. :D

 

Offline Raptor

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This is the kind of ship that looks like it'll bring a tear to my eye...

...if I try to bomb it with no shields.

When this comes out, that's so my first test for it. Pit wing after wing after wing of unshielded bombers against it, and see how long it takes to die.

No, I'm not doing it for the carnage, I just hate shields and turn them off when I can, so it's more like dogfighting. >>;

That said, this looks awesome. I can't wait to see more! That flak screen alone sold me. :D

Well, two wings of six Nahema's one right after the other are tore to shreads after releasing only one volley of torpedoes (though those are my own Shivan Torpedoes, which I can't remember if I gave longer ranges than Cylops), and not one torpedo gets through thanks to the PDT's.

There is a blind spot in the coverage though, I think...
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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/looks at GTD Hera

I... i feel funny in my pants...

Yes, well... are you sure we REALLY needed to know that?

good GOD, no one knows what a freaking JOKE is.

Yes we do, we're just playing you off it  :lol: we all feel the same, just in . . . .different ways :nervous:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline Raptor

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Some more screenies, since I am so close to finishing the texturing! :eek2:


The usual wide angle whole ship shot.  I've got all the hull plates outlined (except the nameplate texture).  Now I just have to finish giving them that texture effect...(around the aft of the ship)


Up close and personal :D  I have to admit that I'm not 100% about the large trianglar faces on the bow, but I'm really struggling to do any better that this.

Now just to start adding defects...

The release version I put out will have a couple different colour textures included.  So you'll be able to chose between this bluish colour, or have steel-gray, or...?
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
NGTM-R review of one of the chapters in my fanfic story :D Story is here! -> 'Ancient Legacies'

 
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please

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Raptor

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Whoa! Down boy! ;)

With a little luck I MIGHT have a release ready by tommorrow evening... (but don't hold me to that!)
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Nameplate= GTD Indomitable

 :wtf:

Shouldn't it be GTSD Indomitable? Or is this thing a lot smaller and less powerful than the Hades (of FS1, the FS2 Hades is crap anyway you look at it.)
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Offline Snail

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The 66 turret Hades with Shivan sponsored fun and a 1000 hitpoint engine aint so bad. ;)



But the Hera's still better. I, however, personally, don't really like the texturing. It seems a little unrealistic, the way you've done the baby-blue type color scheme with the brick-style tiles. And the lighting tiles should be randomized, they look like someone wrote:

gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme
please

All over those light tiles.

But, still, they're not bad or anything. Hope we DO get it tommorow.

 
 :lol:

He already said it would be available in several colors:D
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whoa.....trippy tags....  :shaking:



ouch Snail, that hurts

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Raptor

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Nameplate= GTD Indomitable

 :wtf:

Shouldn't it be GTSD Indomitable? Or is this thing a lot smaller and less powerful than the Hades (of FS1, the FS2 Hades is crap anyway you look at it.)

It's a destroyer.  Observe:

GTD Orion (retail): Length 2023m, width 713m, height 744m
GTSD Hades: Length 3404m, width 1219m, height 1825m

GTD Hera: Length 2504m, width 1004m, height 1004m

So it's about as big as a destroyer gets.  True, that doesn't take into account the actual volume of the ship.  The Hades is large, but it's all spread out.  The Orion by contrast is compact. 

Firepower wise... well that is a little more blurry.  By FS2 standards, it is a super destroyer.  Which makes it a fraction more powerful than what Shivan destroyers should be ;7

Oh, and the current nameplate is 'Indomitable' since it's the fourth weapons fit I've done.  1st was Hera, then Agnememon, then Victory, and now finally the Indomitable pattern ;)  Now if I can just figure out how to get the 'replace texture' feature of FRED to work right... :mad:

@Snail

Well, I did say that I'm still working on the textures.  The colouration of the hull plating was intended to be a steely blue-grey.  I will randomise the lights once I've got them all marked in.

:lol:

He already said it would be available in several colors:D

That's the plan, though it might need to be in a seperate download pack, given the size of the files...



Here's the now default nameplate, showing the intended look for the main hull plating.

PS: Oh, and I think I released an upgunned Hades a while back.  66 turrets sounds about right for the number I put on it...
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The model looks OK, but the Textures are dodgy IMO. The whole thing looks too regular and boring (and yes, I know you think that anyone designing the ship would want to use a standard size of armour plating, and I agree - but this is a game, where looks are more important than reality) and the big thick black lines and monotonous grey makes the whole thing look cartoony.

If those lines have been drawn on as vectors, I'd suggest you edit down the wifth by a few pixels. If they're rasters (Which is far more likely - vectors can be a pain to work with) well, you may be stuck with them.

A few hints:
1 - Vary the size, shape and and especially colour and brightness of your plates. It will make your armour look 100% more interesting straight away.

2 - Texture your armoured plates after you draw the lines on - at the moment it's really obvious that you used a textired fill and then drew lines on top - the textures continue through the plates, which completely throwes any chance the ship will have of looking built rather than modelled and textured. When I texture my plates, if I use a fill at all it's only over a single plate space, and then I generally go around the edges with a textured airbrush to try to segregate the texture on this plate from those around it. It also helps to vary up the colours and brightnesses a bit. Also, if you're putting your texture on after the line, you can use a low tolerance fill or magic wand to differentiate each plate to vary the colour up a bit - as it is now you're probably going to have to box select each plate to change the colours (and I fear it'll make it look even more textured rather than built if you have contiguous patterning between plates with different brightnesses).

3 - Use thinner, slightly brighter lines. Single pixel dark grey lines between armour looks a lot better and less cartoony than big thick black ones.

4 - Bevel your plates. A lot of people may disagree with me on this one, but I think it makes them look a lot better. It's not for every ship, granted, but in some cases it looks really good, especially in conjunction with variable size/shape plates.
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Offline Snail

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I think I whole heartedly agree with Black Wolf.  The texture looks good cause it has signs of fading which makes it more realistic than the rest of the ship texture. Not saying you should do that to the entire thing as it would repeat all over the hull, however.

PS: Oh, and I think I released an upgunned Hades a while back.  66 turrets sounds about right for the number I put on it...

Hmmm... I grabbed it from Hades Combine when Mad Bomber uploaded it. He said someone called Fulgrymm made it for his campaign. Then I replaced the FS2 Hades with it and added scores of SAAA, SRed and LRed turrets to it. ;)