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Offline Jetmech Jr.

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Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
on: September 29, 2006, 10:33:10 am
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Offline aldo_14

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #1 on: September 29, 2006, 10:59:23 am
But what could possibly be legally and morally unsound about legalising physically and mentally torturing suspects until they confess?
 

Offline BlackDove

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #2 on: September 29, 2006, 11:00:19 am
What's exactly bothering you about it?

That they're just saying it publically now?
 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #3 on: September 29, 2006, 11:01:38 am
Quote from: BlackDove on September 29, 2006, 11:00:19 am
What's exactly bothering you about it?

That they're just saying it publically now?

i would guess the complete lack of shame.
 

Offline Jetmech Jr.

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #4 on: September 29, 2006, 11:03:35 am
Quote from: BlackDove on September 29, 2006, 11:00:19 am
What's exactly bothering you about it?

That they're just saying it publically now?

That it's legal now. It means my stupid government can now declare you a suspected Terrorist, and then detain, torture, and execute you after forced confession with no trial. And it's all horribly legal.
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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #5 on: September 29, 2006, 11:05:11 am
Big deal.

They've been doing it before anyway. Practically nothing changes.
 

Offline Inquisitor

Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #6 on: September 29, 2006, 11:17:44 am
Mid term elections, please god, mid term elections.
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Offline Sarafan

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #7 on: September 29, 2006, 11:40:54 am
Just saw this on the news here and finished reading this too, with all due respect, WTF is the US government doing? Are you people crazy? They're right in one thing at least, it'll make all that easy to hate the US government, I know I do now.
 

Offline Descenterace

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #8 on: September 29, 2006, 12:30:11 pm
Hmm. A few months earlier than I expected, but it's finally happened.
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Offline Bobboau

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #9 on: September 29, 2006, 01:17:12 pm
/*is not concerned*/
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Offline Blue Lion

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #10 on: September 29, 2006, 03:02:39 pm
My only hope is in 2 years all these people will be booted out of office. A man can dream, can't he?
 

Offline redmenace

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #11 on: September 29, 2006, 03:11:15 pm
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
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Offline Bobboau

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #12 on: September 29, 2006, 03:27:44 pm
I bet you could if you tried :D
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Offline Nuke

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #13 on: September 29, 2006, 08:37:42 pm
somone beter nuke us before we nuke you :D
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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #14 on: September 29, 2006, 08:42:30 pm
Who cares anyway? Geneva convention was a joke that did nothing when it really mattered anyway. I'm sure if torture was needed for vital information, it was used no matter the proper procedure. ****, it probably went on even when it wasn't necessary.

But ooooooooooooooooooooh, now that it's public it's all wrong?

Cry foul when it matters. A good number of years too little too late.
 

Offline Janos

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #15 on: September 29, 2006, 09:56:45 pm
Quote from: BlackDove on September 29, 2006, 08:42:30 pm
Who cares anyway? Geneva convention was a joke that did nothing when it really mattered anyway. I'm sure if torture was needed for vital information, it was used no matter the proper procedure. ****, it probably went on even when it wasn't necessary.

But ooooooooooooooooooooh, now that it's public it's all wrong?

Cry foul when it matters. A good number of years too little too late.

Torture does not yield useful information, because people will lie to make the torture stop.

What would you do if someone captured a US soldier and used similar methods on them?

Also, you are quite immoral.
lol wtf
 

Offline Bobboau

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #16 on: September 29, 2006, 10:46:19 pm
"What would you do if someone captured a US soldier and used similar methods on them?"

not be suprised, assumeing were talking an enemy in a war.

Also, you are quite pretentious.
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #17 on: September 29, 2006, 10:51:57 pm
The US has sunk to new lows. So much for having the moral high ground.
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Offline vyper

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #18 on: September 30, 2006, 06:25:07 am
POINT: You can't defeat your enemy by becoming them.
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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Someone help us, because we obviously can't do it ourselves
Reply #19 on: September 30, 2006, 08:55:35 am
Quote from: Janos on September 29, 2006, 09:56:45 pm
Quote from: BlackDove on September 29, 2006, 08:42:30 pm
Who cares anyway? Geneva convention was a joke that did nothing when it really mattered anyway. I'm sure if torture was needed for vital information, it was used no matter the proper procedure. ****, it probably went on even when it wasn't necessary.

But ooooooooooooooooooooh, now that it's public it's all wrong?

Cry foul when it matters. A good number of years too little too late.

Torture does not yield useful information, because people will lie to make the torture stop.

What would you do if someone captured a US soldier and used similar methods on them?

Also, you are quite immoral.

:lol:

Quote from: vyper on September 30, 2006, 06:25:07 am
POINT: You can't defeat your enemy by becoming them.

That's true.

You can however, by being worse than the enemy.
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