This thread is great.
I'll bet it would help if it weren't on the Sci-Fi channel. I mean, it's kinda like if someone in the library stuck Ulysses in the Tom Clancy novels. Of course people aren't going to notice it.
Is that supposed to imply that one of those is as horrible as
Blood Surf?
BATTLESTAR IRAQTICA
Could they BE any more obvious and heavy-handed? No... no they couldn't.
Yes, because every TV show that references current events, or explores them in another context that isn't defined in such a black-and-white way by cultural mores is automatically bad.
Well, there are parallels but I think it would be a mistake to view this solely in that light. Yes, current events are inevitably going to hold our interpretive faculties prisoner, but we do the show a disservice if we don't try to see around the "here and now".
Indeed, diss not our historical documents.
Nazi Germany seems a closer parallel. Particularly with the closer of the episode.
Oops, Godwin's law. You lose.
dont you dare say that, popularity is a disease for the arts. sure this show ****ing kicks ass but as soon as all the kiddies come in and say wow, theyre gonna demand a few changes. next thing you know theyre bringing in a girly design dude to redesign all the uniforms and change the mood of the show. this happened to star trek, star wars, stargate, reality shows, movie franchises, metal bands the list of good art gone bad goes on and on and on, i will not tolerate this show to go down the crapper. popularity is bad for art period.
Yes, look what happened to Star Trek XI - nobody liked it. But wait a minute...popularity is a bad thing. So therefore, Star Trek XI must have been quite good. But that contradicts the original statement...
that said this show was chilling as ****. fits my mood perfectly. i love how dark some of the characters have become. this season is just gonna rock!
Negative statement. Positive statement. Positive
and negative adjectives. Positive statement.
For being in a self-described "dark mood", you're not exactly batting three for three here. More like bipolar disorder.
SPOILERS BEGIN HERE FYI
Anyway, when I watched the episode, I wasn't too interested. The 'New Caprica' storyline has never been particularly interesting to me, since it just seemed like a waypoint, a setback, on the way to the rest of the 'search for earth' plot. Now, it's become much more interesting. I can't say exactly why...a lot of what I noticed is that the 'lesser' characters are getting a lot more screentime, which I've just noticed in the last couple of days is something that tends to interest me. It mixes it up a bit.
Also, there's a lot of characters being put in situations that are complete reversals of their previous positions. Lee is now a bitter old fat man. Adama's getting all idealistic. Baltar's trying to make himself a martyr. Gaeta's being rebellious and discontent. Roslin is teaching school and slapping Tigh around, who isn't being a complete screwup. etc etc.
The inclusion of suicide bombers was an interesting twist. It's not something that I expected at all, as that subject has been pretty much taboo for protagonistic characters, so I suppose it wasn't all that surprising that it ended up on BSG.
Next, the introduction of Kasey and her almost instant near-death experience. That one scene was the most memorable for me, because I could just see Starbuck killing her, and then taunting her wannabe-Cylon-bf about her 'resurrecting'. It really had me on the edge of my seat, and I was pretty damn shocked when she was apparently just wantonly killed.
Alas, I'm not quite buying the Stockholm thing. Both Kara and her wanna-be-bf both seemed to be cursed to sabotage their own relationships. It's an interesting state, but it makes them something of a pair...I suppose it might also be significant that wanna-be-bf hasn't been in on any of the council meetings. Also strange that the Evil Black Dude who was also on Stargate only showed up for the end. You'd think that if they were going to pay to include him in the episode, they'd have him do a little more than just say "Yeah, go ahead and kill 'em". Maybe in a deleted scene? Or just to remind us that he's around, for use in a future episode? Hmm.
