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Offline Rictor

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Re: BSG Season 3 premier.
N'o, you're right, I had the same complaint. The whole episode came off as kind of vague and confusing. The notion of some unknown, extremely shifty looking character showing up and is allowed to involve himself in critical matters of great importance, all while acting crazy and eccentric for no apparent reason and arousing no suspicion,  just pushes the limits of credulity.

 

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It was weird, yea. The biggest problem I had with it is that I couldn't understand half of what the lawyer guy was saying. He spoke too softly and his accent was too heavy for me to understand accurately.

 

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Re: BSG Season 3 premier.
Actually, I got all of it pretty well.

The talk with Baltar showed that Baltar is either losing it or faking losing it.  Could go either way.  The one with Caprica Six was  Badger using his skills to make it harder for her to testify against Baltar in the future.  He was turning her as a witness from one of the prosecution to one for the defense.

The lawyer knows his ****, that's for sure.  He's probably 10 times the lawyer the previous guy was, and he might just win.
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Anyway, perhaps it's because I'm not feeling well, but was that episode as confusing as I thought it was? Perhaps vague is a better term. I mean, I realize that Badger (whatever his BSG name is) was "borrowing" all that stuff to find out about people, the better to fight his case. But it seemed to me that in his actual meetings with both Baltar and Six, nothing was really said. It was a bunch of vague pretty words... right? :nervous:
It's not that vague: He masterfully manipulated Six into being a much smaller threat to Balter's defense, and manipulated Lee onto his side of the courtroom to throw off Adama and hence exactly one fifth of the Judging Tribunal. He's manipulative, that's pretty much it.

Personally, I really love how they played Romo Lampkin and all his interesting excentricities, like his sunnies and especially his cleptomania revealed towards the end. I can't wait to see what he'll be like in the courtroom.

The lawyer knows his ****, that's for sure.  He's probably 10 times the lawyer the previous guy was, and he might just win.
Hopefully that'll be the bit twist of the finale; Romo actually gets Baltar off and wackiness ensues.

 

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Honestly he's probably the best developed character in the show, eccentric but not completely fraking insane. (or alternating between 'good' 'whiny' and 'insane/angsty' like most BSG characters between episodes)
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Who, Romo or Baltar?
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Re: BSG Season 3 premier.
Yeah I'd like that question answered too.

As for the episode, jebus, maybe it was just the 'Dublin' accent (what it sounded like it was supposed to be to me) but I thought it was muck. And as you all said, confusing. It seemed really badly cut/edited, almost like they forgot how to do the job. I mean the scene towards the end where Adama reinstates Lee as CAG just felt incredibly abrupt.

Needless to say I thought it was a huge disappointment after the last episode. Man, it's getting so I almost don't want to watch the new episodes for fear of how bad they might be.




A big part was probably the accent.
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I have a feeling this is all a massive setup/prep for the two-part season finale cliffhanger thing. I cannot wait. :)
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IMO, one of the best parts of the ep was Adama's final moment destroying his model ship. As it turns out, the ship itself was a museum piece worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that had been temporarily loaned to the studio, and Olmos completely ripped the ****ing thing apart on an unscripted whim when he was in the moment. Perfectly acted scene, but a tad expensive. :p

Which is precisely why Edward James Olmos is the daddy.

Does anyone have a definitive source that supports/refutes this?

I would love to hear how they worked it out if it's true...it seems like the studio having to suddenly shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars would have a serious enough impact for it to be talked about a bit more than I've heard.
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IMO, one of the best parts of the ep was Adama's final moment destroying his model ship. As it turns out, the ship itself was a museum piece worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that had been temporarily loaned to the studio, and Olmos completely ripped the ****ing thing apart on an unscripted whim when he was in the moment. Perfectly acted scene, but a tad expensive. :p

Which is precisely why Edward James Olmos is the daddy.

Does anyone have a definitive source that supports/refutes this?

I would love to hear how they worked it out if it's true...it seems like the studio having to suddenly shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars would have a serious enough impact for it to be talked about a bit more than I've heard.
Ronald Moores podcast; they didn't shell out cash because it was insured, though, and I believe it was a museum quality prop.  I'll drag out a link if the battlestar wiki goes back up before I head away.

 

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From the podcast:

Quote from: Ronald D. Moore
...and he reacts and lashes out and destroys this ship, and you know what? This was a genuine museum quality ship that we were renting! This isn't a prop, this is hundreds of thousands of dollars we were renting! It... thank God it was insured, but this was like a museum quality [ship]...

 

Offline Janos

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The latest episode rocked

Oh, and
WE'RE CYLONS
lol wtf

 
Re: BSG Season 3 premier.
Ain't seen ep19 yet.

But #i did notice in 18, that you can see the battered remains of the ship in Adama's quarters in the final scene with Lee (I think it's that one). That's class.
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Well they've bought it now. No need to give it back. :p
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Offline Rictor

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Anyone notice the heavy foreshadowing before every end-of-season showdown. "A storm is coming". They had it last season as well, right before the Cylon occuption, except it was Boomer who said it.

Good episode though. Wonder if Zarek is going to step in and save their (Roslin, Adama etc) ass with his 133t character assassination skillz.

 

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I hope not. I took great satisfaction in the prosecution getting nailed. People's knee-jerk hatred of Baltar is pissing me off.

Also, what's going on with that music? Talk about weird moments.
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Offline WMCoolmon

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From the podcast:

Quote from: Ronald D. Moore
...and he reacts and lashes out and destroys this ship, and you know what? This was a genuine museum quality ship that we were renting! This isn't a prop, this is hundreds of thousands of dollars we were renting! It... thank God it was insured, but this was like a museum quality [ship]...

Ah, thankee.

Ain't seen ep19 yet.

But #i did notice in 18, that you can see the battered remains of the ship in Adama's quarters in the final scene with Lee (I think it's that one). That's class.

Very nice touch...
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Also, what's going on with that music? Talk about weird moments.
Indeed.  Tigh, Anders, and whatshername Roslin's assistant all seem to hear it.  I wonder what it is, and what it means...
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Q: Well, what do they all have in common?
A: They were all drinking at the bar.

Remember how that fellow at the bar said he would 'surprise' Roslin's assistant? Possibly the president isn't the only one who's been ingesting hallucinogenic drugs.

Not only that, but RDM mentioned that we would see another Cylon model. Well, nobody would suspect the bartender. :p On a ship as big as the Galactica, with as many refugees as are on the Galactica, it's not like anyone would really notice if a new face happened to pop up in the bar. Maybe he even started the bar.

The more I think about it, the more devious a plan it becomes...

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