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Offline ToecrusherHammerjaw

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In your opinion, what are some ideal names for warships in Freespace, Inferno, Blackwater, or any related Freespace fanwork?  I think some of the names that have already been used really defined the ships that had them.  Here's a few suggestions I thought of:

Corvette: Just about any state in the U.S.
Destroyer: Lovecraft
Super Juggernaut: Dämmerung
Medical Vessels: Averroes, Gilbertine
Science Vessels: Faraday, Hawking, Becquerel

Interested to see what others come up with. (This can be for all species, I just happened to do Terran.)

 

Offline Shade

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Hmmm... I never did like the idea of naming warships after non-legendary people or places, unless there's a really good reason why that particular place/person deserves a warship (other than just existing/being semi-known and dead as seems the case for most US warship names these days. Anzio comes to mind as one of the few in use that I think actually qualify, as it was the site of a major naval landing). It just lacks the proper fear factor.

The RN got it right though, they actually name many of their ships in a way that tells you that you seriously don't want to mess with this thing. GTCv Warspite, anyone? You don't even need to see it, you just know it's going to be trouble if you run into it. Whereas the GTCv North Carolina doesn't score very high in that regard nor gives any indication of what kind of ship it actually it.

For medical and science vessels though, I pretty much agree with you. It's appropriate for those to be named for historical figures of their respective trades.

Now, for the actual naming:

I tend to give cruisers names of the *ous, *able and *a/ence variety. Courageous, Indomitable and Defiance would be three examples of that.

For corvettes, I go with whatever sounds reasonably badass, but without any real theme to it. Warspite is a favourite of mine (as you might've guessed by now), but sadly it's been used so it's out. As long as it sounds like it belongs in a fight, really, it's good.

Orion class destroyers get a name that imply the wrath of some angry god, which is about what an Orion equates to versus other capships. I particularly like Avenger, and use that as often as I can. I rarely use Hecates, so I don't have any naming scheme for those yet.

A special case is black ops ships, whether it be GTVI, SOC or some other entity. I almost always give those a sneaky or incorporeal name, like Shadow, Phantom and the like, regardless of which class they are.

Finally, mythological and/or legendary names can replace any of the above. Except black ops, which I think needs to be special since it should be an occasion whenever you encounter one, and so you should be able to recognize from the name that this isn't your regular run of the mill navy ship. Which of course makes no sense, as black ops ships would prefer to blend in, but I'm not going to give them that choice :p
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Hmmm... I never did like the idea of naming warships after non-legendary people or places, unless there's a really good reason why that particular place/person deserves a warship (other than just existing/being semi-known and dead as seems the case for most US warship names these days. Anzio comes to mind as one of the few in use that I think actually qualify, as it was the site of a major naval landing). It just lacks the proper fear factor.

Y'see, because you don't know the name you think it's not important. I can probably cite to you who and what most USN ships are named after. It's your own fault for not knowing your history well enough. (Besides, clearly you've not payed attention to RN naming practice. The Duke class? How about the Sheffields? York and Manchester are very threatening... :p)

I've tried for some kind of thematic link in class naming a lot of the time, something which FS fell down on the job with. (Only really been sucessful with the Leviathans: Champlain, Kraken, Ness. Can you figure it out?) Newer ship classes I introduce tend to do better in that regard (Typhoon, Chinook, Blizzard for the Aeolus Block 2s.), but not always (the Orion Block 3s and Aten Mark IIs for example are upgrades of older ships, and so retain the GTVA's rather hapzard naming scheme). 

NTF ships recieve the names of French warships, because of a long-ago "French Terran Front" topic by Goober. Terran GTVA warships circa the NTF rebellion tend to end up with RN names so I can play off national rivalry. :p

I tend not to work with Shivan names much, because most of the campaigns I'm working on don't need them. I named the four Shivan destroyers of Cleaning Crew (despite the appearance of three being very brief) after the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and the corvettes just generally nasty-sounding. (Corrupter, Defiler.) I generally try to make Shivan names at least a little meancing.

Ancients ships get a religious name. Groups including destroyers or larger craft have a thematic link to the biggest ship in the group (AD Divine Fury, ACv Wrath of God, ACv Righteous Fire, ACv Judgement Day), except for their battlegroups, which are intended to represent an ad-hoc rearrangement to match the GTVA's battlegroups.

And I haven't even gotten into organizational stuff for the fifth race I intend to work with eventually, mainly because Raa hasn't finished all the models yet so I'm not sure what exactly I'll be dealling with.
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I just pick random stuff out of a couple of lists I took off the Encylopedia Mythica site several years ago. I have no idea what most of them mean, but who cares. :D

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Offline AlphaOne

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WEll if its names you want i have a few of them. Just hope they arent taken yet.

For terran warships i chose Mirage, Rommel (yeah I know what ypu are gooing to say but he was a briliant general nonetheless and not so much a good nazi) there is also Howitzer(just imagine a destroyer named Howitzer GTD Howitzer....now you know this is one ship you must not get near) and i was thinking abou Achile and Sovereign and Eclipse . There are a few that i had in mind for a while and i'm using in mi campaign story...which for some odd reasen I havent been able to finish.




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I tend to just grab a lesser-known language and use names that roughly correspond to the feeling of the ship.

For example, I'm using the Basque language for the new species in Ross 128, so the destroyer class is named the ICD Herensuge.
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Offline ToecrusherHammerjaw

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I've tried to do that before.  Never seen a language like that before, though.  Very interesting.

 

Offline Mefustae

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I tend to skip the Wiki for a while until I find an interesting name for the primary ship involved. Then, I name any other ships in the campaign after nouns found on that page and related pages. For instance, when I named my protaginist's base-destroyer 'GTD Ashikaga', and all the subsequent ships in the campaign have names like 'Heian', 'Tochigi' and 'Illinois'.

Moreover, I also like to latch onto particular events and use names and soforth from that event throught campaigns. For example, the latest thing i've got has latched onto the Battle of Trafalgar, so i've got everything from ship-names to even a few quotes throughout. It just links everything together nicely, and even if the player doesn't realise it, you can be safe in the knowledge there is actually a reason behind the name of your ships, not simply something you pulled out of the air.

 

Offline Shade

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Y'see, because you don't know the name you think it's not important. I can probably cite to you who and what most USN ships are named after. It's your own fault for not knowing your history well enough.
Reading comprehension is a good thing. Now, if you try rereading my post with that in mind, you might notice that I don't mind them being named after someone/somewhere if there's a really good reason for it. Hell, I even gave an example of it.

It's ships just named after an arbitrary state/city or some random dead person that I object to. So Midway is fine, Kentucky isn't, and Nimitz is fine while Ronald Reagan isn't, to stick to the WW2 theme from Anzio. See what I'm getting at? I'm fairly sure no major naval engagement ever happened in Kentucky (it being landlocked and all), and I'm also pretty positive that RR didn't have a stint as a war hero in between his careers as an actor and becoming president. Whereas both the names I'd approve of are very important in naval history.
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How about vasudan ships? Only Aegyptian names?
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Offline aldo_14

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How about vasudan ships? Only Aegyptian names?

Only for FS2 era ships; the FS1 used more 'english' names like the Hope or Anvil.

 

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I always try to associate the ships names with obscure mythological/historical figures (ancient greece specially). Then try to paralel what happened with those figures with the ships.

Call it an easter egg. :D

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You're joking, right? :p

Keep laughing. :P You haven't tried to attack one in a bomber yet.

It's ships just named after an arbitrary state/city or some random dead person that I object to. So Midway is fine, Kentucky isn't, and Nimitz is fine while Ronald Reagan isn't, to stick to the WW2 theme from Anzio. See what I'm getting at? I'm fairly sure no major naval engagement ever happened in Kentucky (it being landlocked and all), and I'm also pretty positive that RR didn't have a stint as a war hero in between his careers as an actor and becoming president. Whereas both the names I'd approve of are very important in naval history.

It's not arbitrary. Actually the Navy has screwed with several longstanding traditions of late in that regard...Reagan was a president, and the military has fond memories of them since he did give them funding to train to their heart's content. Tradtionally cruisers have been named after cities and battleships after states. (Carriers have never really had a coherent naming system; the closest is major battles.) The cruiser one in particular was common to most countries around WWII.

Why?

Because, as Admiral Rickover observed when he specified the Los Angeles-class SSNs were to be named after cities, those places vote.
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