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Offline castor

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Yea, because most other people are smart enough not to post threads about it.
Oh yes!

But I was surprised, to say the least, considering how many, many times this has been discussed :v:
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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
I fear that an eventual FS3 will be a next-gen game with an uber-graphic, that will melt down my PC since it needs as minimum requirements 5 GHz of CPU, 4 GBs of RAM, 50 GBs of HD space and a graphic card with 2048 MBs of RAM. But the thing that I fear most is that I spend a lot of money to buy a new computer, just to discover that the only better thing is graphic, with a sucking gameplay and an even more sucking plot. And no possibility neither of MODding, nor of making self-made missions.

Ah, obviously it will made for XBox users, so the PC version will be ultra easy even at "More-than-insane" difficulty.  Time of completion: 5 minutes.

The worst nightmare.  :shaking:

My thoughts exactly.  :nod:
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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Umm guys, I found a fresh blood trail in Carl's duct. Did somebody mention the Game We Dare Not Speak Of?
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Offline Ulala

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Anyone remember the "There will never be a FS3" thread?  :drevil:

I fed that thread more times than I can remember.. and I wasn't the only one! There were a small few and proud who did their duty. We kept that thing stickied even though it wasn't. TWNBAFS3 will always live on in our hearts!  :p ;)
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Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
What about  :v:? Is not making any new game anyway... if their keep this is going directly to backrupt like Interplay was... and I think thats why :v: does not already buyed the license :P... or there is any other reason?

 

Offline Unknown Target

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Because A) Interplay won't sell it, B) they don't want it, and C) they probably don't have the cash to do it anyway.

 

Offline Turey

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
What about  :v:? Is not making any new game anyway...

They are making games.

Frankly, making GTA is a bit of a fall from their glory days of Descent and FreeSpace, but it pays the bills.
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why would an SCP error be considered as news? :wtf: *smacks Cobra*It's a feature.

 
Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Valve making FS3 would be almost as bad as Derek Smart doing it. :p


Ok. Who the heck is derek smart and what in the world happened to make the name sound like some sort of inside joke among this forum?


That has to be like the 5th reference to that name I've heard yet nothing pops up when I stick that name in the search option :/ Whats the joke?

 

Offline CP5670

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
I guess that just shows how bad the search function here is. :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Smart
http://follies.werewolves.org/

Basically, this guy has had some run-ins with the FS community in the past and was at one time thinking of buying the FS license and making an FS3. Someone else can probably go into more details.

 

Offline Snail

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
He's an ass hole, that's all...

Okay, actually, he's some guy who has good relations with Interplay and wanted to get the license to create FS3 from them. He made some striding comments on some other forums, saying he was going to make a completely new engine, ingore the SCP, and make up his own storyline. Seeing the quality of his othergames, people were terrified. He came to the HLP (his username is DSmart[3000AD], am I allowed to post that?) and began posting some extremely 'bad' things to members of the HLP. Started a flame war in the thread 'Derek Smart wants to develop FS3' and insulted many members. Then he left and continued on with Universal War or whatever it was called.

What I think FS3 would've been if Derek had made it would probably have been something like this:
You're on the GTD Something and you explore the universe. You can fight pirates and the NNTF or the NHOL. The game crashes every time a warp hole closes. There are FS1-style back grounds. You can fly in atmosphere but you can go right through the ground. The ships are super low poly models and use one texture.

I hope I haven't insulted anybody (well anybody besides Derek Smart anyway) by posting this.

 

Offline Turey

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
I hope I haven't insulted anybody (well anybody besides Derek Smart anyway) by posting this.


On this forum, if you've insulted Derek Smart, everyone else is nodding in agreement with you.
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Offline Mongoose

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Out of the ugliness of this thread, I do agree with one point that was raised.  I have absolutely no interest in an open-ended or trading-based space sim (or, for that matter, pretty much any genre of game like that).  When I play a game, I'm in it primarily for the story, and the way I see things, a true story doesn't have fifty different branches or 30 different endings.  I always hated those "Choose Your Own Adventure" books as a kid, and my tastes haven't changed at all until now.  I also can't see how ferrying cargo could be anything but utterly tedious. :p I don't think anything can top FS in my books; combine a compelling linear plot with amazing combat, and you've got an absolute winner. :)

 

Offline brandx0

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
I'm in agreement, I'm starting to hate these "open ended" games (or in other words: we couldn't think of a story to tell, so you'll spend the next forever or two doing the same three missions *coughfreelancercough*)

Tell a story goddamnit.  You can't have a well crafted beginning, middle, and end if there's 5 different middles and 15 different endings for each. (Or worse yet, when the 5 different middles have no impact on the 15 endings)
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Offline S-99

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Well, if fs3 did, it wouldn't destroy the mods at all. The mods would still keep going as there would still be a huge fan base interested in them even if they owned fs3. Everyone would probably be pulling fs3 compliant conversions, which i don't see why that would be necessary. Fs2 engine is just a modified fs1 engine, and they all use the same mechanics and pof formats and weapons and ****, the only difference was that fs1 engine couldn't do beams.
If fs3 came out, well, a whole bunch more mods would come out, and it would certainly put some mods into disarray, but you can't help that. Such is life, and things do heal after chaos, especially when enough people have beaten fs3 for the first time and come back here to hang out and check out the new mods and htl models like everyone else does.
Another thing. It isn't fs3 unless it's volition is quite true. I mean, who here saw x-men3? x-men3 was a horrible movie. If you thought it was great, plz rewatch x-men2 again and note upon the fact that it was building up for a plot and story that was completely different from the x-men3 that is on sale for dvd right now. Why does x-men3 suck(besides concluding all of the events in x-men2 in about 10 or 5 mins, cyclops gets killed right off the bat, and the fact that x-men3 would be no different if the pointless dark phoenix character had not been in the movie)? Because x-men3 was not made by the same people who made x-men1 and x-men2 :lol: x-men3 is horrible, it's just like the same route terminator 3 went...directed and written up by a ton of people who weren't involved in why the first movies were so great. Hence terminator 3 and x-men3 suck total dick :( The least thing this community has done was to keep the fs license from falling into the wrong hands which is highly intelligent and rewarding.
Derek smart would have ****ed up fs3 as much as x-men3 sucked and terminator 3 sucked because they grabbed different that just want to make a dollar off something popular :(
When you can't get the original people to do fs3(the reason terminator3 sucked is because the guy who did t2 died :D t3 should never have been made...just a story line it had to manipulate easily) you find people who at least do a good job at stuff and are dedicated and do care.
 :v: for fs3, the best in the world
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 :cool: valve for fs3, would be a great move, hl1 and hl2 are awesome games, with awesome graphics, and one hell of a story. I don't think valve would fail at doing they're best with concluding the fs2 story into making an fs3 if they had at least the tiniest idea of what fs3 would be told from the horses mouth(that be  :v: ) after someone purchases the license, volition might be a little more forthcoming, but you never know. After valve works their handiwork with stories, well...after that, we don't know how good valve is at making space sims other than fps's. If someone from here were smart they'd probably clue valve into development here at the hlp. But, valve is a much better decision than derek smart ;)
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Offline AlphaOne

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
WEll i say no to derek smart making a posible new FS ! But i do disagree with the idea of not having a FS x . All it could do is ruin some of the mods but on the other hand it could provide new game engine and new ideas for new mods and increase the fan comunity.

How about Blizzard working with Volition on making FS x . I mean they have some very good games ou there and they engines are quite good . Volition vould provide the stroy etc. and Blizaard would give the money to create a new engine and a new game. Also Blizzard usualy puts money towards advertising its new games. Just an Idea. But i know....FS 3 will probably never be made.
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Offline Snail

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
:cool: valve for fs3, would be a great move, hl1 and hl2 are awesome games, with awesome graphics, and one hell of a story. I don't think valve would fail at doing they're best with concluding the fs2 story into making an fs3 if they had at least the tiniest idea of what fs3 would be told from the horses mouth(that be  :v: ) after someone purchases the license, volition might be a little more forthcoming, but you never know. After valve works their handiwork with stories, well...after that, we don't know how good valve is at making space sims other than fps's. If someone from here were smart they'd probably clue valve into development here at the hlp. But, valve is a much better decision than derek smart ;)

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If it ain't :v:, it ain't FS3!!

Death to Valve, death to Derek Smart, death to anyone who even thinks of touching the license. I, for one, am hoping with all my heart that FS3 is never made, because with the wait of FS3 and all the hope for it, whatever is made, will never, and I mean never live up to the standards that we, the members of the FS Community, have up for it. Nothing will ever be FS3, no mod, no wanna bee **** with the nametag FS3, no trash, no treasure will ever be FS3. Everybody has a view of what FS3 may be. Some may think it will be somekind of trash like what Derek Smart had in mind, or something like FS2 just with the name FS3, some may think it may be like Inferno with a ****load of new ships but no storyline (oops).

No one will ever make FreeSpace III, final.

Not Valve.

Not Derek Smart.

Not Scott.

Not even :v:.

Because unless it is some kind of un believably super spiffy god-given gift that everyone will undeniably like and no one will have a single doubt about it, it won't be FS3...

To hell with FS3.

 

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Snail,Snail....Now I'll tell everything to You-Know...
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Offline Snail

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Well, anyway.....

I no wanna FS3...

 

Offline CP5670

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
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I always hated those "Choose Your Own Adventure" books as a kid, and my tastes haven't changed at all until now.

You better not be dissing those books. Those were some of the coolest things I read back in the day. :p
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Offline Mathwiz6

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Re: Yes I know this has probably been discussed to death already but....
Heck, methinks some mods have better plot than some parts of FS2 anyway :D
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