[Colonol Dekker]

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Needs Truevie  What other Plugins are "must-haves" for you Scoob?

[IPAndrews]

I whole heartly agree... TS7 is absolutely horrible... You could find things realitively easy to find things in TS3 but 7 everythings scattered around, half hidden.

Caligari couldn't make a user interface to save their lives. I'm frequently actually amazed by how bad trueSpace user interfaces are. It's quite incredible. Do they have no beta testing programme whatsoever or do they just choose to ignore their beta testers believing that their monkey on space crack is right where their beta testing public are wrong. Who knows? The only thing for sure is that Caligari seem absolutely determined to inflict as much pain and anguish on the users of their programs as possible. Like I said previously, I used TS because I could use PCS to convert TS ships. It it wasn't for that I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. There are so many better options. None of which are Blender .

[Vasudan Admiral]

I'm still waiting on a valid reason from you.

[asyikarea51]

TrueView it is.

It worked perfectly before, but now when I click on it, nothing shows up. Bleargh.

(wanted to add more to this message, but I think it's unnecessary right now, so I've removed it... I'll probably mention it next time or something...)

edit: DANGIT my connection to HLP is going bonkers again... Bangwal

[dr22]

Hi All; Seems to me we all have a desire to make ships and the like for fs2. We just need to get on the same page in order to make it all work. By that I mean that there has to be a way that those of us that have severely limited funds to be able to use these programs to accomplish our goals. Those of you who are able to mod in any of these programs could help those of us that can't. I know that each of you are bussy and have perhaps limited time. Maybe you could some how do a tut that is in pieces that could get us started. This would help those of us just starting out as well as helping those that have a limited knowledge of the different programs. The thing that I have found with most of the tuts I have seen is that they don't show very much detail of how to actually start the drawing ie, open program then set the screen to edit(and how to do that) and so on until the drawing is at some stage that we can actually do it. Not all people learn at the same rate and so there in lies the problem. I am confident that there are those of you that have the knowledge to help and perhaps the paients to see us to the end goal. Heres hoping that you will feel the need to do just that. Again I thank you all for all your input and help. I hope that we can find a way to use both programs to achieve the goal of creating mods that we can all be proud of. Heres hoping.:-)

[dr22]

Hi All; I just went to Mr. WeatherOp's tut. Great stuff. Now thats what I'm talking about, so simple even I can use it. By the by; where is the Advanced tut and the AXES Faq? I also think that Mr. K's tut is great but I wish I could put the two tuts togeather in order to present a more complete tut. I some day will be as good as you two gentalmen. Keep up the great work. Rmember that I started out before computers and perhaps even the printed word. lol Thanks to all of you for your input and help. Have a great day. :-)

[WeatherOp]

Hi All; I just went to Mr. WeatherOp's tut. Great stuff. Now thats what I'm talking about, so simple even I can use it. By the by; where is the Advanced tut and the AXES Faq? I also think that Mr. K's tut is great but I wish I could put the two tuts togeather in order to present a more complete tut. I some day will be as good as you two gentalmen. Keep up the great work. Rmember that I started out before computers and perhaps even the printed word. lol Thanks to all of you for your input and help. Have a great day. :-)

Well, I stopped using TS 3.2 in favor of Wings3D, and that is what you should get in. It has of features that TS3.2 doesn't.

[bizzybody]

trueSpace has a weird UI because it was originally an Amiga program, same reason why Lightwave is soo Un-Windows style in its UI. trueSpace 7 looks like some space monkey on crack attempted to try bringing it into a perpendicular alignment with Windows' user interface semi-standards.

Note to software companies (especially Adobe!). Graphical User Interfaces provide large piles of pre-written code for many user interface things. Why? So you don't have to spend time, effort and code space creating those functions from scratch. SO WHY THE $%#$^#$^#$^#$&6 DO YOU STILL INSIST ON DOING IT!!!!?  Why do you think Microsoft calls them STANDARD dialogs?

P.S. When the heck is this forum going to get sub-fora for the various 3D modeling programs FS modders use? At least for trueSpace, Blender, and 3DS Max.

[IPAndrews]

I'm still waiting on a valid reason from you.

Sorry I thought I told you. I loathe Blender's interface even more than  the TS ones. Which if you're been reading my posts you'll realise I really dislike quite a lot.

Note to software companies (especially Adobe!).

  @ Adobe reference.

So anyway whilst I'm here I may as well ask. What 3D modelling packages are there out there that are completely free. I have 3 computer rooms of about 100 pcs that need some 3d modelling software. Is the choice between TS3.2 and Blender only? Anyone have a link for the free TS3.2?

[Colonol Dekker]

Docagoa, TS, Blender, UMMM GOOGLE IT :d

[dr22]

Hi All; Well I did it. I finally made a ship. I followed Mr. WeatherOp's tut and made a ship. Though it is his design, I did it. lol I'm having problems posting here for some reason today, but I'll try to put it in here. I sure want to thank Mr. WeatherOp and all of you for your help and in-put. I will also try to use the other programs as soon as I can find them.

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[Colonol Dekker]

Very nice for a first ship,    now texture it

[IPAndrews]

Dekker. Please can I have a link to that 3D Studio Max download?

[Colonol Dekker]

Agg, i lied ok, as if Download.com would pimp 3DsMax............





Sorry IPA,



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[asyikarea51]

I was on the hunt for it too.

Nevermind then.

[Colonol Dekker]

Gmax is the same thing, why not get that?

[dr22]

Hi All; What is up with this sight, it's moving so slow. Or is it just me?? Thanks MR.CD and to be sure I will texture it soon as I learn how. Need hep. lol. I to went to download.com and could not find the stuff you spoke of, but, I did find a program called Serif 3DPlus 2.0 That was free. I'll check it out. Hey what about the one called wings, where is it at?? Have a great day all by. :-)

[dr22]

were is GMax at??

[IPAndrews]

GMax is discontinued. Why give something away when you can charge for it.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Sorry I thought I told you. I loathe Blender's interface even more than  the TS ones. Which if you're been reading my posts you'll realise I really dislike quite a lot.

Oh, right - so the rash thing actually was refering to your real reason. My bad.
Still though, what exactly didn't you like about the interface? It produces quite a fast workflow even without using all the shortcut keys, and it becomes very fast and easy with them.

You can access just about everything quickly through the space-bar menu thing, and what's not in there is among the buttons in the buttons window. (Which is, incidentally, even more customisable than 3ds Max's button sets. )

In fact, the interface is so customisable (is that even a word? If not, it is now!) that there's not a whole lot there you can dislike the whole program for, simply because chances are you can change that bit to whatever you do like.

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dr22: Congrats on your first ship! Keep it up.