[Mars]

I find the Ace is easier without wingmen, with one bank of MX-50s and another of Furies.

Launch all of your MX-50's while the Ace is not quite in sensor range while after burning, dodge the incoming Avenger shots and get behind the Ace, you'll need most of your power to your engines, which is fine cause your using ML-16s, keep behind the Ace and when you can get a shot in go at it with everything, quad lasers and Furies. This should get the Ace down in almost every difficulty level.

[Trivial Psychic]

Um, why would the Vasudan ace be using Avengers at that stage of the game?

[Mars]

I don't know... but it is.

My guess would be balancing.

[BS403]

[Conspirisy thoery/] vasudans had already gotten their hands on a prototype and given it to the ace. When he died they lost their prototype and needed another[\Conspirisy thoery]

[Mefustae]

[Conspirisy thoery/] vasudans had already gotten their hands on a prototype and given it to the ace. When he died they lost their prototype and needed another[\Conspirisy thoery]

Conspiracy!! God damnit, you make all us theorists look bad when you cock up the spelling so bloody badly.

[Col. Fishguts]

That's strange... when I first played FS1 I didn't noticed the Ace, I noticed him only when I installed FSPort 2.3... (so... I took 8 years to realize that there was an Ace in that mission  )

You didn't hear the enemy arrival music?

The ace only shows up in that missions if you fulfilled all primary/secondary/bonus goals in the previous mission. I' can't remember exactly what it was, but I think it involved destroying a couple of Vasudan freighters.

[Freespace Freak]

The ace only shows up in that missions if you fulfilled all primary/secondary/bonus goals in the previous mission. I' can't remember exactly what it was, but I think it involved destroying a couple of Vasudan freighters.

Really?  I actually never recall the Ace ever not showing up.

[Col. Fishguts]

YA RLY!

[Freespace Freak]

I guess it's because I'm always so bloodthirsty that I always kill everything in sight if I can.  I guess that's why the command brief says "unconfirmed reports."  Hmmm, now that I think about it, I've passed the mission without actually encountering the Ace.  I guess I just assumed my wingmen got him when I was doing something else.

[Mustang19]

Killing the ace is easy even on Insane. On Insane, you wingmen are a lot smarter and will kill the enemy easy.  The key to winning before you have shields is to lob all your missiles at the enemy and keep calling the support ship. The AI sucks at dodging missiles so you shouldn't have a hard time killing the Ace (I completed the mission this way loosing only one wingmen).

The ace only shows up when, 1, you win the first mission (Eve of Destruction, guard the Orff, super-easy), and 2, two out of the three other enemy wings have been destroyed. So you have to pay attention.

[Colonol Dekker]

The AI are flying Anubii, which = < shoebox strength.
The Seth is nearly as bad though....

[Mars]

[Conspirisy thoery/] vasudans had already gotten their hands on a prototype and given it to the ace. When he died they lost their prototype and needed another[\Conspirisy thoery]

Get Firefox 2.0

It avoids "conspirisies"

[CP5670]

I always found that the so-called Ace just ran away really fast, on pretty much any difficulty, and the main challenge was to chase after him.

[Mars]

That's what I've found.

The hardest part is your first approach though, when your coming up to the Ace... cause your unshielded Apollo will go down in a couple of Avenger hits.

[Freespace Freak]

That's what I've found.

The hardest part is your first approach though, when your coming up to the Ace... cause your unshielded Apollo will go down in a couple of Avenger hits.

That's why I have my wingies with me.  I dodge and weave as I approach, merely firing off MX-50s until I pass him then maneuver behind him.

[bloated]

I would to the mission alone, the Ace wasn't so bad so long as you sent off some missiles to make him evade just prior to the attack then it's just stay on his behind and kill him.

my assumtion is that the Vasudans were prototyping the avenger prior to the Shivans arrival or during and were using the region of space to do a practical test deployment of th e weapon.

[Tracer]

I always sent my wingmen home after taking out the four wings and fought the ace myselft.

It was like that episode of Space: Above and Beyond.

[jr2]

The ace only shows up in that missions if you fulfilled all primary/secondary/bonus goals in the previous mission. I' can't remember exactly what it was, but I think it involved destroying a couple of Vasudan freighters.

Your hull integrity must be above a certain limit.  Look at the SEXPs in the mission.

[Freespace Freak]

I always sent my wingmen home after taking out the four wings and fought the ace myselft.

It was like that episode of Space: Above and Beyond.

A lurker!



Officially now, who knows how long you've been lurking here, but welcome officially.   

[Kosh]

Um, why would the Vasudan ace be using Avengers at that stage of the game?

Secret Vasudan prototype?