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Offline redmenace

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Tort Reform? Whats that.
on: October 27, 2006, 07:57:54 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15446658/
It is stuff like this that makes me hesitant to vote Democrat. Not that Republicans bothered with Tort Reform over these years.
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #1 on: October 27, 2006, 08:28:11 pm
It's that thing we really need and are never going to get. Since a law degree is somehow mandatory to being a politician...
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Reply #2 on: October 27, 2006, 09:41:02 pm
But honestly though, it is something that should happen at the state level not at the federal level. The Federal Gov't shouldn't interfere with how the states conduct and treat lawsuits unless they violate fundamental rights such as equal protection.
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #3 on: October 27, 2006, 09:44:37 pm
I think the whole liability system for things such as this is ludicrous.  If some dumb ass tries to jump off the roof of my house, then sues me for it, it should be his fault for trying to jump off the damn roof.  I shouldn't have to put up "Do not jump off my roof" signs.
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #4 on: October 27, 2006, 09:47:50 pm
Quote from: redmenace on October 27, 2006, 07:57:54 pm
It is stuff like this that makes me hesitant to vote Democrat.

*Looks at article*

I don't see any political party being mentioned as supporting or being against this. Say what you will, but the state of the legal system you can't blame on the Dems despite how much the Republicans tout the "personal responsibility" card. (of course then we have cheery examples of that in the form of Enron, Foley, etc.)
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Reply #5 on: October 27, 2006, 10:37:23 pm
I am pretty sure that the democrats would not be in any hurry to change liability systems. Especially since, iirc trial lawyers, support the democratic party.
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Reply #6 on: October 27, 2006, 11:51:52 pm
Well, is it the trial lawyers fault that the judges keep handing out these fat rewards? They are just trying to leech off of a cash cow.
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #7 on: October 28, 2006, 03:02:42 am
Quote from: redmenace on October 27, 2006, 10:37:23 pm
I am pretty sure that the democrats would not be in any hurry to change liability systems. Especially since, iirc trial lawyers, support the democratic party.

Are you making up a hypothetical and then using it to oppose Dems?

Please.
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Offline redmenace

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Reply #8 on: October 28, 2006, 10:43:04 am
I am deducing such from past actions and current platform. They would never want to do something that goes against their "premice" and would hurt a source of income. Those being trial lawyer.
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Reply #9 on: October 28, 2006, 10:48:32 am
Quote from: redmenace on October 28, 2006, 10:43:04 am
I am deducing such from past actions and current platform. They would never want to do something that goes against their "premice" and would hurt a source of income. Those being trial lawyer.

Prove this and show us your reasoning.

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Offline redmenace

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Reply #10 on: October 28, 2006, 10:52:23 am
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_16_53/ai_76915714 Shows the money
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1006-22.htm Demonstrates how the Core of the Democratic Party feels about Tort Reform.

These are two very biased sources. In opposite directions of course.
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #11 on: October 28, 2006, 11:15:00 am
politicizing this lawsuit in this fashion is assinine and immature.
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Reply #12 on: October 28, 2006, 11:16:12 am
Quote from: redmenace on October 28, 2006, 10:52:23 am
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_16_53/ai_76915714 Shows the money
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1006-22.htm Demonstrates how the Core of the Democratic Party feels about Tort Reform.

These are two very biased sources. In opposite directions of course.

oh puhleeze - those were about the democrats view of a certain method of tort reform*.. this thread is ****ing assinine - find me a democrat who doesn't think the award in the above article was ****ing assinine.


* which intentionally went to far and toward shielding the corporations from lawsuits - it would shield them from legitimate ones! [and the article at CD - a group i rarely agree with - demonstrates why the bush-tort reform was absolutely wrong]
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #13 on: October 29, 2006, 10:55:14 am
Third parties FTW.
 

Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #14 on: October 29, 2006, 07:18:34 pm
I liker tort cosit's cake/pn the other hand - STEAK!
 

Offline Kazan

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Reply #15 on: October 30, 2006, 06:55:55 am
Quote from: Goober5000 on October 29, 2006, 10:55:14 am
Third parties FTW.

yes because third parties are totally going to solve ths problem

hint: they're not
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Re: Tort Reform? Whats that.
Reply #16 on: October 30, 2006, 08:17:35 am
If you're going to have a debate, shouldn't you be using a bit more elucidation than 'FTW' and 'they're not'?

Y'know, because I like the whole intellectual stimuli of reasoned and evidenced argument :)
 

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Reply #17 on: October 30, 2006, 08:21:19 am
this thread it quite clearly not a debate - it started out with a huge non sequitur
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Reply #18 on: October 30, 2006, 10:16:21 am
It's not a debate if it gets turned into Punch and Judy, no. 

Nonetheless I'd like to see some more meat on the bones to sate my curiousity.
 

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Reply #19 on: October 30, 2006, 10:20:20 am
well i did challenge redmenace to find me a democrat who didn't find the above settlement bollocks
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