Poll

Which system do you like best?

Linux
10 (25.6%)
Windows XP/2000
23 (59%)
Windows Vista (beta)
2 (5.1%)
Windows 98/ME
4 (10.3%)

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And why that operating system? ;)

 

Offline BlackDove

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And why the pointless poll?

 
  Just to see what opeating systems are being used. I still know people that are using 95/98/Me. This is sorta like a survey. So cast your vote. Its sorta like voting tomorrow. So have fun with it.

 

Offline BlackDove

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A survey for what?

What purpose does it serve?

 

Offline achtung

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A survey for what?

What purpose does it serve?

To get an answer to his question.
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Offline Nix

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And the only thing that impressed me with Vista was it's voice command.  It was a LOT better than what XP offers.  You can train that sonofagun till you're blue in the face and it still can't tell the difference between "is real" and "Israel", even with a pause between words!  Oh, that and Bitlocker.  Other than that, it's like what Windows ME was to Windows 98, a near pointless excuse to upgrade and change the system.

So since I stick with Microsoft, I'm sticking with XP till I see a "genuine" reason to upgrade.  hur hur hurrrr!!!!!omgthatsucked.... 

 
You were supposed to write "Windows Vista RC2", the beta isn't a fair comparison, it's like writing "Windows Neptune" instead of ME.

 

Offline kode

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why are the options so sucky? where's BSD? where's Solaris? IRIX? HP-UX? BeOS?

I "like" (I suppose "appreciate" is a better term) a lot of different operating systems, but I don't really put one before others as they all have their good points.

If I can get Vista through MSDNAA, I might get it for some newer box I intend to maybe buy someday. As it stands, I can't play any new games anymore anyway and I'm kinda phasing windows out in favour of unix-like operating systems.
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Offline BlackDove

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A survey for what?

What purpose does it serve?

To get an answer to his question.

Yes... I was asking what purpose do the answers to his question serve. Was that not clear? Would you like me to simplify my sentences for you so you can read them like a big boy?

 

Offline Dysko

I wish I could continue using Win98, but I'm forced to use XP.
In particular, Win98 was compatible with many games (FreeSpace, for example, had been painful to get working under XP...), and IMO XP has still a lot of bugs (IE crashing without reason when closing it, the Start menu staying still even if I closed it etc.). Or maybe it's me who finds bugs everywhere :nervous:
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Offline Nix

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Hell, if you buy a laptop now, you'll get the upgrade to at least Vista Business if you get XP with the top notebook manufacturers for free.  That's not such a bad thing, unless you were one of those unlucky saps who bought a Dell Axim X50v and bought the Windows Mobile upgrade CD, only to find out that it makes your PDA about as useful as a doorstop, paperweight, or hell, a very expensive brick!

Now I'm scared actually...  hmm...

 

Offline Mars

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I use Kubuntu Edgy Eff 6.10 which is far different from a plain old kernel with console.

I chose it because:
  • It's free
  • Support is free
  • Cause Windoze sucks

 
Another poll will be in a couple of months.

 

Offline achtung

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A survey for what?

What purpose does it serve?

To get an answer to his question.

Yes... I was asking what purpose do the answers to his question serve. Was that not clear? Would you like me to simplify my sentences for you so you can read them like a big boy?

The purpose of the answers are so that he can know what he wants to know.  This question is pretty obviously just out of curiosity.  Haven't you ever just wondered why something was like it was?

The only reason I got short in my post is that your practically attacking the guy for simply asking a question.  He has every right to ask the question whether it has a point or not.  The threads here are public and open, of course, you have every right NOT to reply as well.
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Offline WMCoolmon

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I use Windows 2000, although I've had a fair chunk of experience with all but Vista.

My experience with Linux (64-bit, I'll grant you) is that while most Linux users will defend it as a great, free, alternative to Windows, the fact is that you get what you paid for. Although you may be able to do the same things as you could on Windows, after a hell of a lot of trial and error, you could probably do the same things on Windows with the same OSS or even more capable and less buggy free software.

The problem with Linux (Well, the main one as I see it) is that the developers and power users are keenly unwilling to see things from the POV of the other side when extolling the virtues of Linux. Quite frankly because they're interested in tinkering with their computer just for the hell of it, while the other side wants to get on with their lives and do something useful. While a Linux dev may think nothing of spending days, weeks, months, whatever time is necessary to learn the nuts and bolts of Linux...it just isn't practical. Windows has effectively positioned itself as an easy-to-use alternative when compared to Linux. No reconfiguring the kernel. No need to build your own software or search for (what turn out to be horribly out-of-date) binaries that only work on a certain distro. No need to worry about hardware not working, or not working properly, and only 1 or 2 people online having even a clue of what you're talking about.

The fact is that after hours of troubleshooting and modifying Hoary Ubuntu 5.04, my install was still less capable, less responsive, and more cumbersome to use than Windows 2000. I could barely use sound because the Audigy 2 NX had virtually nil support, and not all of the 4(!) sound APIs required to say, play a game, supported forced software resampling to a format that the driver would support for my card. In the end, as near as I could tell, I was the premiere expert on how to get your Audigy 2 NX working - but other than that warm fuzzy feeling, I got nothing out of it, as opposed to booting into Windows and spending the 30 seconds it would take to click the "Next" button on the Add New Hardware wizard.

That, and other annoyances, and the total insensitivity of the Linux community to people having to spend hours doing something that would be instantly possible in Windows, eventually drove me away. Of course, the Linux bootloader spontaneously failing and wrecking the MBR of my hard drive also played a part in that.

Now, I wish that Linux really were the next great thing, and it were a viable alternative to upgrading to Windows Vista for me. But the fact is that unless the Linux community moves to capitalize on that opportunity, they are going to miss out on a whole lot of people who don't like Vista, but don't want to deal with the problems that moving to Linux would bring.
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Offline Setekh

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My current laptop shipped with Media Centre Edition 2002. It works fine... have never really felt the need to use the Media Centre interface (which allows you to play music/vids without booting up the rest of the OS). AFAIK, I'm not missing out. :)
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Offline Mars

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I use Windows 2000, although I've had a fair chunk of experience with all but Vista.

My experience with Linux (64-bit, I'll grant you) is that while most Linux users will defend it as a great, free, alternative to Windows, the fact is that you get what you paid for. Although you may be able to do the same things as you could on Windows, after a hell of a lot of trial and error, you could probably do the same things on Windows with the same OSS or even more capable and less buggy free software.

The problem with Linux (Well, the main one as I see it) is that the developers and power users are keenly unwilling to see things from the POV of the other side when extolling the virtues of Linux. Quite frankly because they're interested in tinkering with their computer just for the hell of it, while the other side wants to get on with their lives and do something useful. While a Linux dev may think nothing of spending days, weeks, months, whatever time is necessary to learn the nuts and bolts of Linux...it just isn't practical. Windows has effectively positioned itself as an easy-to-use alternative when compared to Linux. No reconfiguring the kernel. No need to build your own software or search for (what turn out to be horribly out-of-date) binaries that only work on a certain distro. No need to worry about hardware not working, or not working properly, and only 1 or 2 people online having even a clue of what you're talking about.

The fact is that after hours of troubleshooting and modifying Hoary Ubuntu 5.04, my install was still less capable, less responsive, and more cumbersome to use than Windows 2000. I could barely use sound because the Audigy 2 NX had virtually nil support, and not all of the 4(!) sound APIs required to say, play a game, supported forced software resampling to a format that the driver would support for my card. In the end, as near as I could tell, I was the premiere expert on how to get your Audigy 2 NX working - but other than that warm fuzzy feeling, I got nothing out of it, as opposed to booting into Windows and spending the 30 seconds it would take to click the "Next" button on the Add New Hardware wizard.

That, and other annoyances, and the total insensitivity of the Linux community to people having to spend hours doing something that would be instantly possible in Windows, eventually drove me away. Of course, the Linux bootloader spontaneously failing and wrecking the MBR of my hard drive also played a part in that.

Now, I wish that Linux really were the next great thing, and it were a viable alternative to upgrading to Windows Vista for me. But the fact is that unless the Linux community moves to capitalize on that opportunity, they are going to miss out on a whole lot of people who don't like Vista, but don't want to deal with the problems that moving to Linux would bring.

Once you get it working it works well

 

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hey WMC i have a solution to your problems

it's called Fedora Core

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*reads your post in it's entirety*

i've never had to reconfigure my kernel because of any typical-user task, i've never had to build my own binaries for typical-user tasks, i've never have to "search" for the software on any typical-user task.  only piece of hardware i haven't worked in years was a wonky new PCI wireless g network card.


oh.. you used ubuntu - there was your problem.  Ubuntu is absolute abject crap.

i've never seen the linux bootloader fail, that sounds more like a hardware problem than the bootloader (the bootloader doesn't have write capability to the MBR... only the bootloader installer....)


Linux really IS the "next great thing" and it IS a viable alternative to vista.  Just stop using the geek-edition distros like gentoo and crapbuntu and use Fedora
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Offline kode

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wait a ****ing minute now. ubuntu is geek-edition? why's, how can that be when it comes preconfigured with one and only one window-thingamajig.
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Once you get it working it works well
Yay! You missed the entire point of his post, thus precisely validating his complaint!
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