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Offline bizzybody

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An assymetrical fighter.
Still far from done on the modeling. I decided today to try something different, a fighter that's completely not symmetrical. I just did a screencap in trueSpace for the pic. The darker faces are the cockpit area.

I dunno what to put on the ends of the three wings or what it'll have for engines. It want it to look off balanced but have its 'mass' balanced to either side of its central thrust axis.

I started it from a simple cube and all the modeling was done with Quad Divide, Sweep, Add New Edge, Delete Vertexes, Weld Vertexes and manually moving some vertexes. When its done I'll boolean subtract a non-intersecting cube to zap all the surplus edges on flat faces then I'l either manually triangulate or I might just poke the Triangulate button and let it randomize it a bit on this one. :)

Load the model up so you can get a look all around, lemme know what you think of it.


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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Looks good :yes:
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Yay! More bizarre looking ships!  :yes:

Most impressive looking assymetrical so far would be the Ravana, I think.
But still I like this fighter. Looks kinda reminiscient of the Vesuvius.

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Offline bizzybody

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Here's a couple pics showing four variants. In the front view, leftmost is the #6 one from the previous attachment- with some modifications, mostly around the back end. Second from left is #6 after getting surplus edges deleted. Third and fourth are each half of #6 mirrored and welded then weird stuff at the midline fixed up to make a pair of more conventional ships with a common lineage.

It's sort of how car companies sometimes make one full scale mockup with each side different, sometimes just small changes, sometimes extreme. In rare cases a company would make a completely functional prototype with wildly different left and right sides.

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
but a big engine in the back and on the end of the single wing, and put missle pods on the ends of the double wings. that would make it look balanced enough if the engine is big enough   ;7
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
I like the rear (engine-area) section on the biplane version a lot better than the mono-wing variant, but I don't know how well it would convert to your asymetrical ship.

As for wing sections, I highly recommend some kind of vertical missile rack on the dual-wing side, and a large cannon-esque gun on the right.

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Pardon the weird ASCII - weapon loadout similarities aside, I found the Vesuvius to be a rather homely fighter (No offense to the designers, I just don't care for the look). I like the design concepts in this one a lot better. Looking forward to the next set of screens. ;)
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Briefing on the A-SymM series of Space Superiority Fighters.

Background.

When we introduced the asymmetrical mockup of our new fighter concepts, potential buyers showed much interest but said they wanted to see how they would perform as functional prototypes.

At the Narabedla Air and Space Show, we unveiled the symmetrical mono-wing Mark 8 and bi-wing Mark 9 to rave reviews.

Then the Mark 7 was rolled out and immediately launched. The observers were quite stunned to see the asymmetrical ship was a functional vehicle.

While the Mark 8 and Mark 9 designs were being prepared for production, inquiries kept coming in on the Mark 7, so many that we had to put it into the production readiness program.

Production.

Now, Galan Aerospace is proud to present the A-SymM7, A-SymM8 and A-SymM9!

These three craft are the first off their production lines.

Ordnance Pods.

The M7 is outfitted with a bank of four modular ordnance pods on the port bi-wing, suitable for guns, energy weapons, missiles or bombs. Optimized for high capacity missile loadout, these pods can also pack a very large punch when equipped with guns or energy weaponry. Each of the four pods may also be fitted with energy cells to support higher firing rates and/or a longer firing time before requiring recharging from the reactor.

On the starbord mono-wing, the M7 suports a tri-module ordnance pod capable of being loaded with bombs, missiles, or energy weapons. These pods are optimized for energy weapons, guns may be fitted but the smaller size limits the number of rounds available. Weapon convergeance may be set individually for each tri-pod. The bomb capacity per tri-pod is two for most types.

The modular configuration of both types of pod provides for fast turnaround when re-arming, and for quick replacement of damaged modules. Their positioning at the wingtips enhances survivability of the pilot should the ordnance be explosively destroyed by enemy fire. A fast pod jettison system is standard on all variants of the A-SymM series.

For full details on ordnance capacity of both styles of pod, contact our toll-free Hypernet node and ask to speak with a weaponry consultant.

Core weaponry.

All three craft are shown with red dummy rods on the body to indicate all of the possible core weaponry mountpoints. It is not recommended, or with most loadouts- possible, to use all of these mountpoints at the same time. Wherever possible, identical vertical and/or horizontal positions for each mountpoint have been used accross the series. This makes it easier to crosstrain pilots for each variant as well as using a common software suite on all three models.

Engines.

All A-SymM fighters come equipped with five engines for superior speed and enhanced survivability in combat operation. The M7 and M9 versions have two and four (respectively) engines with the ability to augment thrust in a planetary atmosphere. The M8 has the fastest afterburner speed with the M7 performing between the M8 and M9. Cruise speed is identical for all three versions.

Cockpit.

With the decision to produce all three A-SymM versions, the cockpit was rationalized across the three. With the common design, a pilot can fly any version and each will respond exactly the same to control inputs. Our VariOptimum software suite handles all of the variables amongst the A-SymM versions, allowing a for a single pilot training programme no matter which of the craft his or her squadron is equipped with. Any loadout is automatically configured and presented to the pilot via our custom interface attachment modules, which Galan Aerospace can design for any weapon or ordnance it's possible to fit into any core bay or pod, now and in the future.

Thank you for considering a purchase of the A-SymM Space Superiority Fighter Series.

Galan Aerospace looks forward to doing business with you.

(The ZIP file has the three ships as seen in the latest pics.)

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Offline Getter Robo G

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Overall look cool...

One opinion, make those "guns" recessed as holes and not sticking out. It would look more detailed that way plus you could play with the textures. Simple rods make them look low quality.  ;)

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Offline bizzybody

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Like the "press release" says, those rods are just dummies to show where the mount points are for the weapons. :)
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Offline bizzybody

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Two more versions. The four Tri-pods on the bi-wing have been lengthened to accomodate more ordnance while the mono-wingless ;) version sports a pair of the bi-wing's large quad pods and a standard length tri-pod in place of its dorsal fin. Naturally this compact design is the fastest* ship yet from Galan Aerospace as well as having the largest armament potential.

*Assuming the customer doesn't try to load it down with the absolute maximum ordnance package!

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Ok it's got wings. Which means you're aiming for some kind of atmospheric capability here. Because wings in space are pretty pointless. Unless you're going to stick thrusters on the end of them, and I'm not seeing any thrusters. Although I would imagine the results of putting retro thrusters on that kind of asymetrical wing design as amusingly disasterous as trying to fly it in an atmosphere. Putting all that aside. You have some pretty ships there!
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Offline bizzybody

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Thrusters? That's what textures are for! ;) What's nice about these is they're not all one piece models, so if you want to change the pods, add your own guns on the body etc. Have fun.
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
I don't understand why we need asymmetrical fighters. Us 'umies like things to be even, and even means more weapons (two is always better than one, four is always better than three, etc.)

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Ok it's got wings. Which means you're aiming for some kind of atmospheric capability here. Because wings in space are pretty pointless. Unless you're going to stick thrusters on the end of them, and I'm not seeing any thrusters. Although I would imagine the results of putting retro thrusters on that kind of asymetrical wing design as amusingly disasterous as trying to fly it in an atmosphere. Putting all that aside. You have some pretty ships there!

Not necessarily - they change the turning characteristics if the craft by displacing its center of mass - if you place thrusters on them they are also a handy way to increase the effectiveness of your thrusters. (Longer arm, greater angular force).

However you're right: making them aerodynamic is poinless.
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Not necessarily - they change the turning characteristics if the craft by displacing its center of mass - if you place thrusters on them they are also a handy way to increase the effectiveness of your thrusters. (Longer arm, greater angular force).

Excellent idea... take a look at my rapier and pirhana, they both have side-thrusters
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Not necessarily - they change the turning characteristics if the craft by displacing its center of mass - if you place thrusters on them they are also a handy way to increase the effectiveness of your thrusters. (Longer arm, greater angular force).

Not really. The computers on your fighter craft should be able to compensate the direction of the maneuvering thrusters enough to where it doesn't matter if you have wings or not. The only reason fighter craft today have wings is to give enough surface tension to keep lift to keep the craft in the air. In space, you don't need to keep your craft in the air.

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Not necessarily - they change the turning characteristics if the craft by displacing its center of mass - if you place thrusters on them they are also a handy way to increase the effectiveness of your thrusters. (Longer arm, greater angular force).

Not really. The computers on your fighter craft should be able to compensate the direction of the maneuvering thrusters enough to where it doesn't matter if you have wings or not. The only reason fighter craft today have wings is to give enough surface tension to keep lift to keep the craft in the air. In space, you don't need to keep your craft in the air.

But shouldn't thrusters placed farther away from the center of mass have greater effect (at least according to the law of the lever.  I suppose one attach the thrusters to beams, but a wing structure would give more strength and storage agea.
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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
They would, but not much. We really don't know much about the maneuvering thrusters so it's all speculation from here... oh, and basic physics

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Re: An assymetrical fighter.
Ok it's got wings. Which means you're aiming for some kind of atmospheric capability here. Because wings in space are pretty pointless. Unless you're going to stick thrusters on the end of them, and I'm not seeing any thrusters. Although I would imagine the results of putting retro thrusters on that kind of asymetrical wing design as amusingly disasterous as trying to fly it in an atmosphere. Putting all that aside. You have some pretty ships there!

The GTF Perseus and the GTF Valkyre (spelt that wrong - sorry) have something like a wing on them. :nod: :confused:

I think those ships are good. The asymetrical one reminds me of a SF Dragon or a SF Scorpion. :yes: :yes: