[aldo_14]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6176209.stm

Circumcision can cut the rate of HIV infection in heterosexual men by 50%, results from two African trials show.  The findings are so striking, the US National Institutes of Health decided it would be unethical to continue and stopped the trials early.  It supports a previous South African study which reported similar results.  Experts said it was a significant breakthrough but could not replace standard methods of preventing infection such as condoms.

The two trials of around 8,000 men took place in Uganda and Kenya were due to finish in July and September 2007 respectively.  But after an interim review of the data by the NIH Data and Safety Monitoring Board decided to halt the trials as it was unethical not to offer circumcision in the men who were acting as controls.

[Taristin]

[Flipside]

I'm almost afraid to ask how they tested this...

[Taristin]

Probably why it's so unethical. "Ok, all you men, sleep with this HIV infested whore..."

[Bobboau]

wow kaz is gona be pissed if he can't comment on this!

[Fragrag]

Circumcision can cut the rate of HIV infection in heterosexual men by 50%, results from two African trials show. 

Woohoo! I'm 50% safer!

[Nuclear1]

wow kaz is gona be pissed if he can't comment on this!

Well, I can definitely see him jumping in and screaming "flawed test" or the like.

[Blue Lion]

Well now I know if I ever go to Africa....

[Ulala]

Um.. yay?

[Maxwell]

I've been told that circumcision helps to prevent other infections, but how are they so sure its not just because of a change in lifestyle?

Leading cause of infection from any disease is ignorance of the thing spreads.   Africa does not seem like a place where many people get extensive medical care.  Wouldn't a circumcised male child already be on a better path than one thats never seen a doctor?

[Sandwich]

In reading the article here, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at the terminology and phrasings used... check out the parts I've emphasized:

Circumcision can halve the risk of a man picking up the HIV infection which leads to Aids, scientists in the United States said last night. Two major trials, in Kenya and Uganda, have confirmed what doctors and campaigners have suspected and hoped for several years. The results have major implications for the fight against the Aids pandemic raging in Africa and Asia.

Yesterday Kevin de Cock, head of the World Health Organisation's HIV/Aids department, said it could cut the numbers of infected men by "many tens of thousands, many hundreds of thousands and maybe millions over coming years".

The two trials should have gone on into next year but were called to an abrupt halt yesterday by the funder, the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, after an interim review of the data showed a halving of the risk of infection among those circumcised. Now that the point is proven to the satisfaction of scientists it would be unethical to continue. All the uncircumcised participants will now be offered the medical procedure.

Sorry, but:

[Nix]

and thus...  don't believe everything you read.   

[achtung]

Maybe it's just the fact that those circumcised knew what AIDS was and how it spread/got better medical care?  Fifty percent sounds a bit high.....

[Turey]

Maybe it's just the fact that those circumcised knew what AIDS was and how it spread/got better medical care?  Fifty percent sounds a bit high.....

Someone has to take Kazan's POV:

Or maybe the circumcised men weren't as attractive as the uncircumcised men, and so had fewer chances to acquire AIDS

and from the guy sitting next to me in class today:

It'd be like Survivor: AIDS! The winner is the one whose strain is most prominent!

[Nuke]

this would make kazan explode. and not in a good way

if you dont want aids dont put your pecker where it doesnt belong, like in a whore. that simple. if youre with a girl and she wants to **** on the first date, its not a good sign of things to come. most men just go "oh yea im gettin laid" but one must consider that she may have givin the same offer to all the guys shes ever met. not quite the place i wanna go. this is like cutting off your leg so you dont get a spranged ankle. common sense is the best weapon against aids.

[Mongoose]

I still can't get over the fact that the head of the WHO's HIV/AIDS group is named Kevin de Cock.  D'you think he did something to earn that position, or did his higher-ups stick him there just for the sight gag?

[Quest_techie]

I still can't get over the fact that the head of the WHO's HIV/AIDS group is named Kevin de Cock.  D'you think he did something to earn that position, or did his higher-ups stick him there just for the sight gag?

thank you so much for beating me to that

this study effing had to be flawed, there is no way within the nuremburg code to pull this off


edit: accuratly

[aldo_14]

I've been told that circumcision helps to prevent other infections, but how are they so sure its not just because of a change in lifestyle?

Leading cause of infection from any disease is ignorance of the thing spreads.   Africa does not seem like a place where many people get extensive medical care.  Wouldn't a circumcised male child already be on a better path than one thats never seen a doctor?

You're assuming that it's normally a doctor who does the circumcising......

[Windrunner]

In reading the article here, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at the terminology and phrasings used... check out the parts I've emphasized:

Circumcision can halve the risk of a man picking up the HIV infection which leads to Aids, scientists in the United States said last night. Two major trials, in Kenya and Uganda, have confirmed what doctors and campaigners have suspected and hoped for several years. The results have major implications for the fight against the Aids pandemic raging in Africa and Asia.

Yesterday Kevin de Cock, head of the World Health Organisation's HIV/Aids department, said it could cut the numbers of infected men by "many tens of thousands, many hundreds of thousands and maybe millions over coming years".

The two trials should have gone on into next year but were called to an abrupt halt yesterday by the funder, the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, after an interim review of the data showed a halving of the risk of infection among those circumcised. Now that the point is proven to the satisfaction of scientists it would be unethical to continue. All the uncircumcised participants will now be offered the medical procedure.

Sorry, but:

aren't you Circumcised mike? i mean thats is a part of jewish religion right?

[aldo_14]

In reading the article here, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at the terminology and phrasings used... check out the parts I've emphasized:

Circumcision can halve the risk of a man picking up the HIV infection which leads to Aids, scientists in the United States said last night. Two major trials, in Kenya and Uganda, have confirmed what doctors and campaigners have suspected and hoped for several years. The results have major implications for the fight against the Aids pandemic raging in Africa and Asia.

Yesterday Kevin de Cock, head of the World Health Organisation's HIV/Aids department, said it could cut the numbers of infected men by "many tens of thousands, many hundreds of thousands and maybe millions over coming years".

The two trials should have gone on into next year but were called to an abrupt halt yesterday by the funder, the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, after an interim review of the data showed a halving of the risk of infection among those circumcised. Now that the point is proven to the satisfaction of scientists it would be unethical to continue. All the uncircumcised participants will now be offered the medical procedure.

Sorry, but:

aren't you Circumcised mike? i mean thats is a part of jewish religion right?

I think Sarny is actually orthodox christian or somesuch.