[Setekh]

A third Stargate TV series is now officially in development.

The question is, what's going to be the premise? I take it that we won't find another Ancient outpost in another galaxy with an insectoid-vampire race waiting to be awakened... so how are they going to spin this one off? There must be a new big villain. I wonder if it could be the Furlings at last...

[Mefustae]

They'll probably unveil the new premise towards the end of SG1's run next year, or perhaps Atlantis at the end of Season 4 in 2008, likely having it shoot off directly ala Atlantis at the end of Season 7 SG1. It'd be nice if they kept the old Star Trek franchise tradition with the previous series sending off the new one for the pilot, which they did with Atlantis in 'Rising', and they'll hopefully do in this new series' Pilot only with the Atlantis team conducting the send-off.

Now, the Furlings... face it, we're never going to see 'em. It was a silly name to begin with and they'll probably just fade from memory ala the Zat's power to disintegrate. We got giant Koalas for '200' and we have to live with 'em, damnit!

[aldo_14]

Stargate SG-2?

[Ashrak]

Stargate SG-2?

dont those guys die on every mission?

[aldo_14]

Stargate SG-2?

dont those guys die on every mission?

Keeps the cast costs cheap.

[Quest_techie]

I posted this on a stargate forum, this is what I'd like, a ship series finally

Stargate: Tempest

The USAF prospero, a new combination of technologies goa uld, ancient, asgard and..... FURLING is tested, and it's drive system, going terribly wrong, strands the crew in extradimensional space, ninth chevron time, and hangin' out with ancients time

also we can play with time travel, alternaternate timelines, all that fun stuff that sci fi people freakin' love in an extradimensional tempest, all the while being hunted by what initially seem to be dumb creaturse, but are later discovered to be incredibly intelligent sentient ascended beings

we get to leave the ship, say every (insert number of hours that has astronomical significance) and do missions and pick up supplies, but get ripped back to the ship, via the stargate and ninth chevron we can get back, but we can't explore new without the x number of hours pulldown, we could develop <fairly early in the season to cut down on the annoyance factor> a device that makes it so only part of the ship is vulnerable to the pulldown, and they want to explore anyhow, and have to for supplies and to try to find a way to get out of extradimensional space


it's more complicated than tthat, and there are plotholes, but, I dunno, I think it has potential

[aldo_14]

I still think having human spaceships is against the very ethos of Stargate, myself.

[spartan_0214]

'Cept that one ship they made about 3/5 of the way through the series. Called the Dedalus right?

[Quest_techie]

I mean in the star trek ship as a primary setting sense

they also have the prometheus and the oddysey if we want to say "have they done ships"

I wouldn't cry if they were on an asgard ship instead

[Ashrak]

the prometheus got nuked ages ago

[Quest_techie]

have, past tense

[aldo_14]

'Cept that one ship they made about 3/5 of the way through the series. Called the Dedalus right?

They have, ummm, something like 5 ships;

Spoiler:

Prometheus (destroyer), Koralev (destroyed), Daedelus, Apollo (finale of Atlantis S3), and Odysseus

.

I just think Stargate worked best when it was set in a believable scenario, i.e. something you could envisage if we did discover an artificial wormhole network.  When they introduced starships for Earth, I just though that it was getting a bit outlandish and cliched, giving into sci-fi convention.  Even if the Prometheus et al are really cool.  Same applies to a Star Trek scenario, especially one set in some outlandish new dimension with hypertech; I hate that - at least BSG has a civillian fleet that lends character story, and a rough grounding in some idea of 'reality' - because it eventually becomes ludicrous.

[Ace]

I do think it would have been much more interesting if ships were limited to only a few of the most powerful 'gods' such as Ra and Apophis as their thrones. Earth and even the other technologically advanced races would be stuck with just gates and maybe teleportation for the Asgard.

Then you avoid it being like Trek later on.

[Quest_techie]

see, now for me, they've opened up the tech tree box, they need to go down that path now, and they need to do it better than they have been, which is perhaps asking for two contrary ideals

[aldo_14]

see, now for me, they've opened up the tech tree box, they need to go down that path now, and they need to do it better than they have been, which is perhaps asking for two contrary ideals

I think if you do that, to be honest, IMO it's not really Stargate but a new sci-fi trading off the name recognition.

[Quest_techie]

they already forfeit it being stargate long ago by hat logic

anyhow from what I understand they've approached micheal shanks about being the lead, it's looking like it's going to be the daniel\vala show

[Unknown Target]

I posted this on a stargate forum, this is what I'd like, a ship series finally

Stargate: Tempest

The USAF prospero, a new combination of technologies goa uld, ancient, asgard and..... FURLING is tested, and it's drive system, going terribly wrong, strands the crew in extradimensional space, ninth chevron time, and hangin' out with ancients time

also we can play with time travel, alternaternate timelines, all that fun stuff that sci fi people freakin' love in an extradimensional tempest, all the while being hunted by what initially seem to be dumb creaturse, but are later discovered to be incredibly intelligent sentient ascended beings

we get to leave the ship, say every (insert number of hours that has astronomical significance) and do missions and pick up supplies, but get ripped back to the ship, via the stargate and ninth chevron we can get back, but we can't explore new without the x number of hours pulldown, we could develop <fairly early in the season to cut down on the annoyance factor> a device that makes it so only part of the ship is vulnerable to the pulldown, and they want to explore anyhow, and have to for supplies and to try to find a way to get out of extradimensional space


it's more complicated than tthat, and there are plotholes, but, I dunno, I think it has potential

I mean in the star trek ship as a primary setting sense

they also have the prometheus and the oddysey if we want to say "have they done ships"

I wouldn't cry if they were on an asgard ship instead

So the premise of this series that you're proposing is that the intrepid crew travels throughout the galaxy, going through time warps, discovering alien races, engaging in diplomatic discourse with said aliens, discovering strange new worlds, and boldly going where no man has gone before?

Wait...hasn't that already been done?

[Quest_techie]

I was more thinking pulled into different aspects of time space, initially forcibly, then by choice <ninth chevron> say one episode they are pulled to the SGC three years in the past, or to some planet on the other end of the universe, or whatever, and they don't really get a choice where they go initially <later for some b.s. explanation they can gate there a la ninth chevron> so they might get into really dreadful situations, get to recycle costumes, so we get that hit of nostalgia now and then <how big is the universe, what are the odds of landing in the milky way or pegasus> but generally we are dealing with malevolent extradimensional beings

it has a great deal of deep plot potential just in the fact that they would have to get pockets of time "unlocked" <which would age parallel to them> so it would be awhile till they could get actual help from the SGC, either from a future sgc or a present one <to prevent all those nasty paradoxical happenings, and it would almost have to be future so as to create a disincentive for the crew to go back and just abandon ship>

they woouldn't be STRANDED stranded, but they would have all the normal aspects of strandedness in terms of plot motivation

[Unknown Target]

...so instead of straight up Star Trek, it'd be Star Trek: Voyager crossed with Dr. Who?

[Quest_techie]

dunno, never seen doctor who