[Javito1986]

I just need to give credit where credit is due. This is the first user campaign I've played (though I've been playing Freespace for six years now) and I am incredibly impressed. I believe I've finally made it to the last mission and it's just been one hell of a ride from start to finish. I had no idea what this campaign was going to be about when I started playing it. In all honesty, it has sated my thirst for a continuation to Freespace 2. To me, Derelict -is- Freespace 3. So... kudos. 

[Dark Hunter]

Derelict is pretty much top-of-the-line in user-made campaigns. 

If that whetted your appetite, here's some other suggestions:

Sync and Transcend
Into the Depths of Hell (Chapters 1-4 are up now)
Inferno: Alliance
Just Another Day (1 and 2)   

[CP5670]

Derelict is pretty much top-of-the-line in user-made campaigns.

Well, I wouldn't quite agree with that. I liked some of BR's other campaigns such as STL and Homesick much better.

[neoterran]

IMO, despite it being far too short, Inferno was pretty damn cool.

[Mobius]

I'm for BR. He is a myth.

Derelict is long. However, there are some strange things about the storyline and still some little bugs. Remember that Derelict SCP is BR's

<The Nyarlhathotep anihilated the Ancients....> <_<
<What? The Lucifer could destroy the Colossus?> <_<
<Ah, the Auriga. I wonder where she is now...> <_<

Anyway I also recommend Warzone. I like it so much because it was the first custom campaign I played.

You should play Inferno. It's quite amazing because of the presence of new ships and new music tracks.

[Javito1986]

Where can I get Inferno? I'm a bit confused. I downloaded Inferno Alliance but that doesn't seem to be the same thing you guys are talking about.

[Mobius]

Inferno Alliance takes place in Sol after the destruction of the Delta Serpentis jump node.

Inferno R1 is "FS3". 30 years after Capella the GTVA returns back to Sol.

But if are looking for something interesting I'll suggest you the upcoming Steadfast campaign. It's a fusion of both mods..


<Derelict has no real mods. Strange, after so many years the GTVA should have designed new fighters or new weapons...>

[Cobra]

Derelict is long. However, there are some strange things about the storyline and still some little bugs. Remember that Derelict SCP is BR's

But the campaign itself isn't. Agatheron (sp? forgot) and Kellan made the actual campaign, Blaise just spruced it up a little.

<Derelict has no real mods. Strange, after so many years the GTVA should have designed new fighters or new weapons...>

What are you talking about? Derelict takes place 2 months or 2 years later. 2 months isn't near as long enough, neither is 2 years.

[Javito1986]

Derelict takes place five years after the end of Freespace 2. So it's perfectly reasonable for me that they'd still be using the same equipment (just look at how long the United States used the F-14). One thing I always found humorous about Wing Commander was how the Confederation would go through a complete fighter compliment redesign every five years heh.

The Inferno R1 campaign -does- sound mighty interesting... I believe I will try that next.

[Mobius]

I don't think so. They should have used something new.

Something developed even during the NTF rebellion,not just something planned after Capella. Five years are five years...there could be another class of corvettes. The war with the Shivans has exploited many weakness of TV ships and fighters the post Capella GTVA tries to nullify.

But the campaign itself isn't. Agatheron (sp? forgot) and Kellan made the actual campaign, Blaise just spruced it up a little.

I know that.

[Mars]

Try Homesick... it's the only FS campaign that I've ever gotten emotionally involved in.

[Cobra]

Try Homesick... it's the only FS campaign that I've ever gotten emotionally involved in.

Same for me, but I haven't played Homesick for so long that I forgot what I was emotionally involved in.

[karajorma]

I don't think so. They should have used something new.

Don't think so. The GTVA would have had serious financial problems after Capella was destroyed. It's worth noting that 31 years after FS1 the GTVA are still using the Herc, Loki and all 3 heavy bombers because that's what the NTF ended up with.

[Qwer]

Let's look at that closer.

IMHO Derelict is nice, but not exellent. Story is predictible (the only suprise was first trick with Knossos, then I knew what would happen). Like LGM/BR said there are some bugs in plot and realism (The biggest one was GTVA attack on Shivan fleet, how the hell they couldn't take down SINGLE ship?!). Some missions are little boring. I think Derelict cult is simply because it was first major campagin (if not first at all). Later-made Homesick beats it in plot, suck-in effect (and this climate of whole-universe-against-you-and-you-can-only-escape ^^) and missions (however it lacks of realism but in this kind of campagins it doesn't matter too much). Finally Sync-Transcend beats Derelict in EVERY aspect, particularly in plot, climate and suck-in effect. Hell, they even beat main FS1/2 campagins! Currently desinged Phoenix will try to get close to them, but I think it will be impossible.

[Nix]

Try Homesick... it's the only FS campaign that I've ever gotten emotionally involved in.

Thirded.  Not only did I get wierded out by the ending, I honestly felt compelled to stay up one night and keep going through it.  I felt sick, and like I wanted to cry at the end.  I believe that's what Blaise was going for on that story.

[Mobius]

I don't think so. They should have used something new.

Don't think so. The GTVA would have had serious financial problems after Capella was destroyed. It's worth noting that 31 years after FS1 the GTVA are still using the Herc, Loki and all 3 heavy bombers because that's what the NTF ended up with.

If YOU say that, I have to reconsider what I've been thinking

Homesick,Sync and Transcend aren't true "campaigns". As others said,they're playable films with some good and bad things. Derelict is more regular: it represents a normal war,after all. It becomes worse after the arrival of the Shivans. Also, we don't know what happens to the Auriga. It escapes and...boh!

I don't consider Sync and Transcend the best campaigns for many reasons. I found many bugs expecially in Sync,when you're in the nebulae. Also, I don't like considering Sync missions as true missions. Sol:A History has 40 missions,but the real number of missions is 36. I don't consider the preudo-cutscenes at the end of each campaign as a mission. Sync is similar:there are chat-jump out missions I simply don't consider missions. The last mission is a pseudo-cutscene,too.

I say that because I know what kind of work there is beyond the making of a mission. I know that you need hours to make good missions. A 5 min work considered as a mission is a lack of respect.

[neoterran]

we need work to bring S:AH into compliance with the SCP (Inferno R1+ SCP update + Shadows patch is now also out of date) and Shadow0000 seemed to have done of it, but for various reasons he never completed the work.

[Mobius]

According to Snail BR will make a new S:AH compatible with both INF SCP and INFA.

[Qwer]

LGM - I'd say making stories like ones in Sync-Transcend requires much more time and skills than those missions from Derelict. About "real campagins" vs "film-like campagins" I prefer second ones, but that's only my taste. First ones are for those who wants challenge, second ones who prefers good plot and stroryline. Cutscenes aren't "real" missions, but they help in creating climate and developing storyline. If you want real challenge, you can just play Raider Wars on Insane.

[CP5670]

I agree with LGM for the most part. I personally wasn't all that impressed by Transcend or Sync. I would much rather have interesting gameplay in a campaign than a good story, although of course it's best to have both (I thought STL did this pretty well). If I wanted a story and nothing else, I could just read fan fiction or something.

The gameplay does generally take a lot more time and effort to perfect than the story related elements in my experience. Most of that time is spent in just testing the mission over and over again to get everything working just right.