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Offline blackhole

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My campaign has not been going very well. However, in the midst of working on it i created a very interesting concept for the backstory of the shivans. I'm posting it now in case it might come in handy for anyone else making a shivan campaign - or anyone wanting to read a really cool fanfic :D

WARNING: After reading this, you may be inclined to join the shivans.

  

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----The Shivans----
Eons ago, when the stars were still young and the galaxy
bright as the distant quasars, there lived two species in
the Milky Way galaxy. One was the Xelnon, a peaceful and
compassionate race devoid of any cruelty. The second was
a bloodthirsty paranoid race not unlike Man
himself. When these two species met, the Xelnon were
instantly enslaved and tortured. For thousands of years,
they laid oppressed, beaten and disused. Their technology
continued, however, to grow into realms never seen
before by the likes of the universe.

The Shivans were borne out of that race's last desperate
attempt to heal. Born out of hatred, out of anger, out
of desperation. The Shivans, a cybernetic blend of organic
pieces of the Xelnon themselves combined with scavenged
beam cannon technology the Xelnon took from their oppressors,
were the finest creations of the Xelnon. They would also
prove to be the most deadly. As more centuries past and
the Xelnon were slowly exterminated, some went into hiding.
They built a grand machine, a machine capable of accessing
the intricacies of subspace itself.

Initial experiments brought back many corpses, but slowly the
technology advanced. They endowed their creations, their
closest friends - the Shivans - with all their knowledge,
and more. Yet, alas, even this last fortress fell to the
might of the Xelnon's lust-filled hunters. The Shivans
watched in silent horror as their closest friends, their
family, slaughtered before them, destroyed, shown no
mercy. When at last they could see no more, the Shivans
fled through the subspace portal.

Wandering the interspatial fabric, the Shivans built themselves
a home. They thrived in zero-gee, adapting over and over to its
environment until they reached the form we see them as today.
Over the hundreds of thousands of millennia that passed, the
Shivans saw fit to exit their haven, to look for evidence of
species that had the unique compassion of their forefathers,
to search for another, just one, that wasn't cruel. Yet, they
were disappointed. Their diplomats killed, their observation
of vast interspecies wars, they sadly turned their backs on the
universe, again and again.

The Shivan’s anger grew, fostered by the seemingly endless
hatred that all the others possessed. They did not hate, not
yet. But the seed had been planted. They had seen so much
cruelty, so much injustice, so much... Then they saw something
that the universe itself would deem unforgivable.

It was 8500 years before today. The Shivans had detected
massive subspace disturbances and had, once again, gone
searching for them. They met their worst nightmare. A species,
one with vast technological power, had seen fit to enslave
almost every civilization they set their eyes upon. They were
like a disease spreading throughout the galaxy, the very
embodiment of the horror that the Shivans despised. Mortified,
the Shivans sent in diplomats, to attempt to establish some
kind of communication. They destroyed the diplomats,
and immediately came looking for the Shivans. They did not ask,
they did not care, they lived only to subject everything under
their own twisted control.

The Shivans would let this monstrosity last no longer. The
very reincarnation of their father's killers had been created
at last. They would destroy them. They would destroy them
with a vengeance, with a determination not seen in this galaxy
nor any other galaxy for a billion years. They hunted them.
They destroyed them. They showed no mercy. They showed the
oppressors what it felt like. They showed them what it meant to
be the hunted. The took the greatest sin committed against a
species - their own creators - and blasted it upon that race
a hundredfold. They struck with such might the very foundations
of the universe felt their wrath. The oppressors were
obliterated. And the Shivans had been driven to insanity. They
watched, and waited.

The first thing the Shivans saw when they found the human race
was the Vasudans. And missiles. And explosions. And murder.
It wasn't just one race, it was two! Two races, veritable clones
of the monstrosities that butchered their mothers and fathers,
that enslaved their cousins, their gods, their creators.

The Shivans, as a race, made a choice that day. That the universe
would once again feel the wrath of the Shivans. The Destroyers.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2007, 02:18:21 am by blackhole »

 
Very interesting read. Don't think anyone's portrayed the Shivans as victims before... if they have, I haven't heard it. I say to you: kudos.  :yes:
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Offline Centrixo

the shivans are native to subspace, i think this story is obselete.

il explain: first off what ever these shivans were before they were trapped inside a exoskelatal frame, definatly was not another race more like an organism that was found in subspace itself, who ever the creators were they created a exoskelatal structure to trap these beings inside this body, and the non organic pieces are probably what controls this organism to move the limbs and communicate via em plues and become like 1 minded, ovbiously these creators wanted warriors to protect thier lands from other aliens, but thier creation was a disaster and thousands if not millions of these machines were created for war and programmed to be smart and Xenophobic, they destroyed thier masters and started thier charge killing anything that was in thier home, being subspace.

i really doubt this story, but i can accept it as speculation.

but only :v: knows in the end.
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I've seen people say this before, so I will reiterate:

There is no canonical information that states Shivans are native to subspace. Nor is there any information to suggest that they were created by another race.

That is fanon as much as this theory is.


I do believe (I might be wrong), that :v: stated once (not in the games) that the Hallfight creatures were Shivans in their natural state, therefore not machines and not in suits of any form.
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Offline Tamlin

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I"ll just say nice Idea...Last time I posted,I was on pain meds and needed to be translated.By others...
 So I'll say nothing more.

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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I believe that its speculated (in the games) that the Shivans evolved in subspace, but there has been no direct evidence of it, even in that context.
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Offline Harbinger of DOOM

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Nice read, I almost want to help em out (although not against the GTVA) :D

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Offline Mongoose

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That's a pretty original theory; I'm liking it. :)

 

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Now we should go beg someone to go make a campaign with Alpha 1 being a Shivan! :P
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Very interesting story.

The only flaw I see is that the Ancients weren't the first race the Shivans exterminated.

Still, very interesting.
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Offline karajorma

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A good theory. The only logical flaw I could find is that the galaxy isn't trillions of years old. Replace that with billions and it works.

I do believe (I might be wrong), that :v: stated once (not in the games) that the Hallfight creatures were Shivans in their natural state, therefore not machines and not in suits of any form.

The :v: quote basically stated that that the Shivans are what we see in Hall Fight. They aren't wearing power suits like the aliens in Independence Day. We're not seeing a soldier race that works for the Shivans. What we are seeing is the real thing. So the cybernetics are part of the Shivan itself.

The only flaw I see is that the Ancients weren't the first race the Shivans exterminated.

Says who? The Ancients are the only race that we know for certain that the Shivans exterminated. Bosch speculates that there might be others in monologue 1 but there is no proof of that.
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I can't offer evidence, but if not, the Ancient's monologue and Alpha 1's statements are wrong.
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Offline Centrixo

umm il pull that proof back up to close that cake hole  :D

The Shivans (named after the Hindu god of destruction and regeneration Shiva) are an ancient, destructive race that has exterminated countless spacefaring races and recently fought two destructive wars against the Terrans and Vasudans. It has been confirmed that Shivans are in fact xenocidal. Shivans have a black exoskeleton, five legs, compound eyes, and are apparently some form of cybernetic organism, with both organic and inorganic components including an integrated plasma weapon. They are physically extremely strong and well adapted to a microgravity environment, possibly having evolved in it. The typical Shivan specimen is roughly 4m to 5m long and its height varies between 2.5 and 3.5m depending on its posture. It is theorised that the integral plasma cannon, inorganic materials, and cybernetic components can be explained by the use of an artificial exoskeleton of sorts (Descent: FreeSpace, Disc 2, the video featuring the boarding team).

Only a handful of Shivans have ever been captured, and all research on live specimens ended with the rebellion of the intelligence branch of the GTA at the close of the Great War. The results of these studies remain highly classified.

In Descent:Freespace the narrator (an Ancient) speculates that the Shivans are closely tied with subspace; they apparently are native to subspace, and take notice of any species that travels through it, acting to exterminate them. At the end of Descent: FreeSpace, it is theorized that the Shivans are the Galaxy's immune system. They appear and exterminate any species that develops subspace technology. By doing so, they prevent any one species from spreading across the entire galaxy and dominating all other races. It is theorized that humans would never have developed if not for the Shivans, because the Ancients would have been allowed to spread and eventually conquer Earth. Likewise, the Ancients would not have been able to develop, as they would have been conquered by the races that came before them.
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Offline karajorma

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1) That's a wiki entry and therefore may have errors in it. (I dispute the "exterminated countless spacefaring races" for instance)
2) It says possibly. So even that entry doesn't say that the Shivans did evolve in subspace.
3) The Shivans are from subspace theory seems to have evolved from a single line in a cutscene.

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The Ancients died eight thousand years ago as humanity emerged from its Neolithic infancy. They believed their voyage across the sea of stars woke the dragon that slept beneath the waves: that the Shivans were birthed from the flux of subspace and their destruction was the revenge of an angry cosmos.

Note that this line was spoken by Bosch (who may or may not have been mad) and that he never actually says that he believed it, just that he thinks the ancients believed it.

4) As for the bit about the Shivans being native to subspace I have no idea where that comes from. Does anyone have any idea where the narrator says that? It's certainly not from Endgame.

I can't offer evidence, but if not, the Ancient's monologue and Alpha 1's statements are wrong.

When do the ancients say that the Shivans wiped out anyone except for them?

The transcripts of the ancient monologues are up in my FAQ. Feel free to look. It never mentions the Shivans wiping out other species. Just that they did (assuming that's what they mean by crush).

Same goes for Alpha 1. He only mentions the Shivans killing the ancients.

So while there's a good chance that the Shivans killed other races you can't say someone is wrong because they have a theory in which the Shivans only wipe out the Ancients
« Last Edit: January 08, 2007, 09:56:01 am by karajorma »
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I do remember hearing that it was not a soldier race but the Shivans themselves, but I don't remember where....

 

Offline Centrixo

Karajorma would you alteast consider it speculation then if you dont want to hear it? :p
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Not sure what you mean Centrixo.

I have no problem with speculation. I only have a problem with someone saying that speculation is great or wrong based on shoddy evidence or logic.
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So, blackhole, are you saying that it's possible to have peace with the Shivans?

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It has been confirmed that Shivans are in fact xenocidal.

Where was this confirmed? If the Shivans are like blackhole thinks, then they aren't xenocidal, just extremely POed. After all, the Shivans did try (sorta) to make contact with Bosch. We don't know the Shivans' true motives.

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Offline Mehrpack

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hi,
first really nice idea  :yes:.

@spartan: no he didnt say that, the shivan only find violence and that drive they in insanity.
i dont think that blackhole really say you can make peace with them, but he try explain there motivation behind the madness of the shivans, with that story.

he give the shivans a really face, a dramatically side of the violence that they bring.
in the story of blackhole the shivans are victims and delinquent in one person.

they fight against the violence but in the same time they are the person who bring other species the violence that they receive in the past.

thats really sad.

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