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Offline Rictor

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Big Brother is most definitely watching you.


Apparently this is an actual poster posted around London. So says Digg anyway. Here's another instance of the same poster.

If I may be blunt: what the **** is wrong with you people? This is not slightly over the line - the line has been crossed and is now out of view. Your country is a good ten miles beyond the line and accelerating. Oh yeah, and telescreens are becoming all the rage.

You're a lost cause. Sorry to say it, but that's the way it seems to me right now. Because to reverse even the damange that's already been done would take decades, nevermind the new laws that are being passed every day.

 
Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
Scary....

Tom Sawyer: Boy, they told me Europeans had funny ways...

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Turey

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
Even America hasn't gotten to the point where we advertise our spying.
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Hah! I can just tell you all to get Penn & Teller Bull****, that show just rocks, and the U.K. Is way way over the top with Big Brother.. Just like Rictor said.

 
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Even America hasn't gotten to the point where we advertise our spying.

Yes, we actually understand the #1 rule of spying.

Rule #1: Don't EVER let the people you're spying for know that you're spying on someone else because they won't like it.

Oh yea,

rule #2: Don't let the enemy know you're spying on them... just a side note

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline achtung

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
Why won't the British take a stand?  I mean, isn't there some kind of outrage?  Some kind of "leave my business to be my business" attitude?
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Offline Mr. Vega

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
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Yes, we actually understand the #1 rule of spying.

Rule #1: Don't EVER let the people you're spying for know that you're spying on someone else because they won't like it.

Oh yea,

rule #2: Don't let the enemy know you're spying on them... just a side note

Yes, but we have yet to actually praise such surveillance openly. Notice how Bush says that it's necessary due to the threat of terrorism, which at least suggests a temporary nature. Now your boy Blair has been quoted as saying "the age of civil liberties has ended," if I am not mistaken.

If somebody doesn't tear those down, then frankly it's Britain that needs to be liberated, not Iraq.
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
:wtf: That's all I have to say about this........



**** even China doesn't have posters like this. What is wrong with you people?
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Offline Flipside

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
They've been around for years. I think they even won an award for 'worst promotion concept ever' from Private Eye magazine.

It's really all about advertising the new camera systems they installed on Buses and Tubes, after a boy was stabbed to death on the Bus and it turned out the onboard camera was empty. It was supposed to re-install confidence into passengers about travelling late at night on the bus, but, quite frankly, they could have put the words 'Mein Kampf' on that poster and it would have had much the same impact.

It stopped being used by London Transport about 2 years ago, at least, that's the last time I remember seeing a poster and having a laugh.

 

Offline Nuclear1

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It's really all about advertising the new camera systems they installed on Buses and Tubes, after a boy was stabbed to death on the Bus and it turned out the onboard camera was empty. It was supposed to re-install confidence into passengers about travelling late at night on the bus, but, quite frankly, they could have put the words 'Mein Kampf' on that poster and it would have had much the same impact.

Yeah I thought there would be a side of the story that wasn't being mentioned here.  It just seemed out of place, even for the British government, to be blatantly advertising its spy programs. 

The poster is still stupid, but now it makes sense.
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I guess it takes a Brit to know a Brit.

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Polpolion

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Hmmm, remembers a certain something from the 1984 novel....

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Rictor

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
They've been around for years. I think they even won an award for 'worst promotion concept ever' from Private Eye magazine.

It's really all about advertising the new camera systems they installed on Buses and Tubes, after a boy was stabbed to death on the Bus and it turned out the onboard camera was empty. It was supposed to re-install confidence into passengers about travelling late at night on the bus, but, quite frankly, they could have put the words 'Mein Kampf' on that poster and it would have had much the same impact.
Yeah, but since when are CCTV cameras on buses and trains A-OK? The point is not the atrocious advertising*, but rather the fact that there is something to advertise. From everything I've heard about the plague of "anti-social behaviour" coming from the UK, I get the impression that surely you must have roaming gangs of armed psychopaths shooting everyone on sight. Maybe it's just something that British politness and sensibility fail to grasp, but people are often violent. They get hurt, they get mugged, they get drunk and have a brawl.  And sometimes they die. Every large city, even in Sweden, has its crime problems. That's life. And monitoring your citizens like ants or children isn't the solution. There is such a thing as an acceptable level of violence in society, and I can't imagine that a modern, civilized country like the UK has exceeded that threshold enough to warrant George-****ing-Orwell. I think the public's acceptance of such intrusive measures may have to do with the prevailing attitude that someone so much as looking at you sideways is a horrific and utterly unacceptable breach of safety and must be dealt with at any cost. What happened to you guys? You survived the Blitz, but a few Chavs have forced you into adopting a police/nanny state out of fear.

*actually, it's very clever. The ad agency created a clearly subversive ad and managed to get it approved - kudos and thanks to them.

 
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Rictor, if there was a way to prevent crimes from happening at all, would you use it?

Would you use it if it cost you a tad bit of privacy?

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Flipside

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'Anti Social Behaviour' is basically an outcropping from that 'stiff upper lip' that bought us through the war. When the government wants to start talking about evicting people for playing their music too loud, you just know that something's very wrong.

As I said, it wasn't a good ad. but that's all it was, it wasn't a quiet attempt to remind us how under the thumb we are, it wasn't an attempt to set up a secret network of ultra-secret spies based on the illuminatae in order to monitor our every move. It was just a bloody stupid ad.

 
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I know Flip. It's just entertaining to watch this post whilst reading Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six....

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"Take my love. Take my land. Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I've found Serenity. But you can't take the sky from me." - Ballad of Serenity

 

Offline Mr. Vega

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
'Anti Social Behaviour' is basically an outcropping from that 'stiff upper lip' that bought us through the war. When the government wants to start talking about evicting people for playing their music too loud, you just know that something's very wrong.

As I said, it wasn't a good ad. but that's all it was, it wasn't a quiet attempt to remind us how under the thumb we are, it wasn't an attempt to set up a secret network of ultra-secret spies based on the illuminatae in order to monitor our every move. It was just a bloody stupid ad.

And that's precisely when people need to burn a couple buildings to the ground, to remind the government not to try anything.
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Offline aldo_14

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
They've been around for years. I think they even won an award for 'worst promotion concept ever' from Private Eye magazine.

It's really all about advertising the new camera systems they installed on Buses and Tubes, after a boy was stabbed to death on the Bus and it turned out the onboard camera was empty. It was supposed to re-install confidence into passengers about travelling late at night on the bus, but, quite frankly, they could have put the words 'Mein Kampf' on that poster and it would have had much the same impact.
Yeah, but since when are CCTV cameras on buses and trains A-OK? The point is not the atrocious advertising*, but rather the fact that there is something to advertise. From everything I've heard about the plague of "anti-social behaviour" coming from the UK, I get the impression that surely you must have roaming gangs of armed psychopaths shooting everyone on sight. Maybe it's just something that British politness and sensibility fail to grasp, but people are often violent. They get hurt, they get mugged, they get drunk and have a brawl.  And sometimes they die. Every large city, even in Sweden, has its crime problems. That's life. And monitoring your citizens like ants or children isn't the solution. There is such a thing as an acceptable level of violence in society, and I can't imagine that a modern, civilized country like the UK has exceeded that threshold enough to warrant George-****ing-Orwell. I think the public's acceptance of such intrusive measures may have to do with the prevailing attitude that someone so much as looking at you sideways is a horrific and utterly unacceptable breach of safety and must be dealt with at any cost. What happened to you guys? You survived the Blitz, but a few Chavs have forced you into adopting a police/nanny state out of fear.

*actually, it's very clever. The ad agency created a clearly subversive ad and managed to get it approved - kudos and thanks to them.

I'm more bothered about CCTVs' prevelance in public areas than transit, myself.  Any ticketed system of travel offers the capability to track people, but it's not too meaningful as surveillance in public transport because you're using fixed point-to-point links; it's the ability to track people outside that bus stop or train station that opens up the can of worms for me.

Why won't the British take a stand?  I mean, isn't there some kind of outrage?  Some kind of "leave my business to be my business" attitude?

Akin to it, but bear in mind this is an advert only seen - AFAIK - in the metropolitan area.  There are several caveats worth remembering - namely that the majority of any population tend to be ill-educated sheep, and the context of this poster (that Flip pointed out).  There is an ongoing debate about the level of CCTV et al in the UK going on, and there have been a few recent stories from important watchdog people warning about the loss of privacy; but ultimately the problem is that this stuff is portrayed as tackling the 'scum' of society, and it's not politically expedient for the main opposition parties to get too mouthy over it.

Anyways, for sinister see the benefit cheat ads; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKWtife5BqA, or the TV licence ones.

I'm always astonished they get away with those ones....

 

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Re: Big Brother is most definitely watching you.
 :wtf:  I don't understand the outrage at having CCTV on buses and trains.................Rictor, what do you get up to on public transport that you demand privacy.. I mean it's PUBLIC transport there is no privacy even without the camera's.
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