[Destraex]

I would love to see this mod in the starshatter2 engine
Starshatter allows you to fly fighters AND control big ships in much detail.

Oh well, appreciate the effort anyways guys. It seems that because Freespace is free all the mods I wanna see are coming out in it

A link for those who have never heard of it, its a small developer and thus does not get much press
http://www.starshatter.com/

[Tolwyn]

There were certain attempts to mod WCS into Starshatter, but they were abandoned years ago

[Turey]

I get the feeling that Starshatter doesn't have the Coder-Modder interaction that FSO has, so it's harder for modders to get new features/detailed help.

[Destraex]

The new starshatter game(released a month or so ago) has mod tools specifically released for modders
WHat other game can you fly fighters and control the big ships all in coop multiplayer (or head to head)

Its really all about taking control of the fleet back while still being able to have your fighter jocks around. THe ultimate really
Besides that its newtonian physics (or arcade as you like) and has orbits and planetary bases you can land fighters or carry out missions at

BTW what did you guys think of the Wing Commander movie??

[Wobble73]

@ Destraex



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And I'm sure many people round here thought that the Wing Commander Movie sucked big time 

[Destraex]

thanks..... I did not mind the movie actually...... but it was a shame so much in it was screwed up. THe capital ships looked great and the explosions while awesome reminded me of submarines rather than spacecraft.
In fact the whole movie reminded me of the ww2 star wars dogfight analogy.... except this time it was depth charging in space

OHand I did not start this thread as a slap in the face to the DEVs hard work on this project.... just suggesting what I would like to see with wing commander and what is best suited as an engine

[TheLeadSled]

Forget the Wing Commander Movie it SUCKED big time. I saw it when it came out in the movies and the reviews on IMDB even show that almost everyone hated it. It was a shame that Chris Roberts didnt use any of the original actors from WC3 or take a proper scenario of the Wing Commander story to work with. If the Battle of Earth scenario with some of the WC3 actors like Malcom McDowell, Mark Hamil and John Rhys Davies were used that would have a much better way to have produced the movie.

Other than that I ama fan of Chris Roberts work especially Wing Commander 4 but nearly every PC game tends to produce a crap movie so it is unfortunate that Wing Commander followed this as it was so unique from other game genres with so much depth to the characters such as romance and the death, shock and suffering associated with war that I havnt seen in many other games.

[gevatter Lars]

Personaly I think the movie had some nice aspects and some bad. Good was the mood/feeling of a dark grim and not very nice universe. Also liked some of the FX and the intro music.
What I dislike is the Pilgrim storypart, that the cats look like "maulwürfe" (read realy bad) and most and of all...as a big fan of the Bengal ship design...that they haven't used a updated Bengal model but this ciggar in space. Realy realy hate that design.

If it wasn't a WC movie I would like it more but it is and so I think I prefere watching the WC4 DVD instead of the movie.

[Destraex]

i will have to dig out my wc4 discs. how do you watch it as a movie all the way through?

some more screenies for you of starshatter to show its potential

[ZildjianO0]

I know with the DVD release of WC4 you can explore the disc and watch all the movies seperately (at least i remember being able to) otherwise i'm sure you could *cough*download*cough* a couple of clips from somewhere.  As for the CD version... i think you have to unlock them as you play.  WC Movie had great effects and was doing the bullets in space before BSG Reimagined.  As for original cast, i seem to remember McDowell wanting to do it but had obligations with Star Trek Generations.  I second the Battle of Earth idea as being the perfect basis for the movie.  And WTF with Taggart being FRENCH?! 
My question is why didnt they use the Kilrathi models from the games?  The puppets were amazing and very lifelike even by 1999 standards.  Oh well, WC will always be represented by WC3 to me.  Funny thing, as huge of a star wars fan as i was back then, i had NO idea it was Mark Hamil as Blair.  I guess a little scruff goes a long way.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Of-Topic: You have Wing Commander III, you have Wing Commander IV (I don't remember if Prophecy was out before or after the movie, but I disliked it's story, so I don't count it in.). Both III and IV have great actors, nice stories and convincing Kilrathi. They were movies already, not like that...abomination with the "mouth goes up, mouth goes down, I don't move" "cats" and that weird story that showed Blair as a..."Pilgrim"?

Wing Commander Movie was a major disappointment. Long live Wing Commander III and IV!

On-Topic: Since I haven't played all of them, was there any WC game where you could actually take control of corvettes or frigates?

[gevatter Lars]

No their aren't any WC games where you could controle a capship directy. In Armada you kind of commanded a carrier but it was limited to the "go their, build this, attack that" part. No real action from the bridge.

As for Starshatter...I have played the first versions Demo. Didn't liked it that much....maybe this second part is better. Don't know why I never got into Starshatter. I like the idea a lot but just played for a few minutes before playing something else.

[Destraex]

i finished wc3 AND 4 but it was so long ago. I do remember the star wars trench run in the stealth fighter

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

i finished wc3 AND 4 but it was so long ago. I do remember the star wars trench run in the stealth fighter

The Excalibur was the king of spaceships there.

Too bad you never get to use it in WC IV and it's not that good there. Oh well, WC IV has the Dragon fighters.

[Mancubus]

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Too bad you never get to use it in WC IV and it's not that good there. Oh well, WC IV has the Dragon fighters.

but they just didn't have the soul of excalibur

[Destraex]

TCS tigers claw...... boy did it look different in the wing commander movie.... same with the fighters

[gevatter Lars]

Indeed very different. I didn't liked the design that much. Only one that I liked was the small freighter that Paladin was flying when delivering Blair and Maniac to the Claw.

[Destraex]

they had an electronic warfare version of one of the fighters that went with them in the asteroid field - broadsword was it? That looked ok
Also the main earth and kilrathi fleet I though looked ok.

[gevatter Lars]

I can only remember the Kilrathi scout ship with the electronic equipment...no fighter of that time had the electronic capabilitys of electronic warfare.