[Ulala]

Meh, I'm happy with my LG EnV for $100 after rebates, etc. The iPhone and the LG ke850 both look cool, and each have convenient features that I wouldn't take advantage of enough to justify their price tags.

[NGTM-1R]

The Koreans and the Japanese have yet to prove they know much about making truly usable interfaces. Just because two items look similar doesn't mean they work the same.

My NES begs to differ.

[Unknown Target]

Thank you gentlemen, for your logical, measured responses.

I just read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental a couple of times, and it has some interesting things to say.

I know many derogative terms for Asians (or if you prefer, Easterners), but Oriental is not one of them. At least I've never met a Korean or Japanese or Chinese person who was personally offended. I won't bother telling you where I've lived over there, lest someone again think I'm bragging.

It's my observation that white people (or is it Caucasian now?) enjoy being offended on behalf of others though, it's become somewhat of a national pastime here in the USA.

It's not just white people (or is it Caucasian now) - I'm Puerto Rican, black, Taino Indian, white, and probably some other things I forget. I still get offended.

And

The Koreans and the Japanese have yet to prove they know much about making truly usable interfaces. Just because two items look similar doesn't mean they work the same.

Is just retarded. Heck, half the devices you use in your daily life were probably designed by the Koreans and the Japanese. My TV, my microwave, bits of my computer, my stereo, my CD player - all work quite well, and are designed by them.

[aldo_14]

I don't see how this is "hot water".

Both companies designed mobile phones that would have touch screen and a number of other common features. It's not like they copied each other.

If you ask two companies to design a door, chances are you are going to get two doors.

It depends what either company copyrighted, methinks.  Apples history of litigation leaves them rather open to criticism in this sort of case, more so than other companies might be.

[karajorma]

I have one question. If you're not calling them oriental just exactly what the **** are you going to call them? Cause Asian is already taken.

[aldo_14]

I have one question. If you're not calling them oriental just exactly what the **** are you going to call them? Cause Asian is already taken.

Well, asian is often used for the entire continents' worth of ethnicities.......

[Agent_Koopa]

Well, I've always said that if Apple made a tiny, white plastic trash can, called it the iWastepaperbasket, and offered it for $50 US, it would sell like hotcakes.

[fsi.scsi]

i'm sure many people have said this in the thread, but apple products are simply not for people who like configurability*.  in other words, geeks.

*disclaimer: the iPod is pretty cool.  iBooks suck though.

[kode]

i'm sure many people have said this in the thread, but apple products are simply not for people who like configurability*.  in other words, geeks.

*disclaimer: the iPod is pretty cool.  iBooks suck though.

'cept for the newton, surely.

[aldo_14]

As a wee note (eek, necro-bump), they've settled.  Basically, apple & cisco have agreed to share the trademark and do some inter-operability bobbins.

[Ulala]

Aw, shucks.. here I was hoping Apple would have to come up with some other stupid "i" name for their cellphone that would be really lame since iPhone makes the most sense. iCommunicator, perhaps?

[redsniper]

iCell

[vyper]

iDB?

[Ulala]

iSIXHUNDREDFREAKINBUCKS?!

[aldo_14]

iCall?

[Kosh]

I have one question. If you're not calling them oriental just exactly what the **** are you going to call them? Cause Asian is already taken.

I once sat next to a couple of Asian guys (one of them was a friend of mine the other was a friend of his) in university. One of them  said "I think there was this middle eastern that likes you...." and the other said "I only date asian". Me and my friend were both laughing at that. Americans don't know anything about geography.......

[Taristin]

I was made aware, recently, that people from the north of africa to the arabian peninsula, all the way to India/pakistan despise being called "middle eastern."

My teacher says that if you are going to call her anything, she'd prefer Arab, Egyptian, maybe even Muslim, but not Middle Eastern.
Interesting tidbit.

[Ford Prefect]

What about "terrorist"? I've heard that's kinda of a faux pas.

[redsniper]

Now see I thought that calling someone an Arab who wasn't actually from Arabia was insulting...