[FUBAR-BDHR]

I guess the simple answer to this would be:  Why put the time and effort into building another Hades when something much bigger and better was probably already being planned -- The Colossus? 

The more correct answer migght be:  The GTI who built the Hades tried to overthrow the GTA.  How much of the plans were lost in the conflict?

[AlphaOne]

I guess piecs of it but the esentials would still be there! Traitors or not they had an invaluable piece of technology at they disposal and from we know of GTVA command they are really greedy when it comes to taking advantage of things like these. Especialy since they already defeated the GTI !

[Mars]

Mars and canon.

Honestly in this particular conversation it has to be canon or it will erupt into another "Uber-cruiser of doom" thread.

[Snail]

In one of my mods, there is a mission where you see the GTC Ubermorder testing out a new type of beam cannon, and it cuts an entire planet in half.

[Vasudan Commander]

Maybe someone should make a FS2 campaign about a new Hades or something like that.

Personally, i reckon the Hades would've made a good flagship for the NTF.

[Snail]

The GTC Ubermorder could easily cut it to pieces with its OMGWTFBBQSALADGreen.

[Mr. Vega]

For example, I believe V made it clear that the Lucifer shield was only impenetrable to FS1 era weaponry

And I insist that all that talk of the Colossus being able to defeat the Lucifer was standard GTVA propaganda bull****.

[Mars]

For example, I believe V made it clear that the Lucifer shield was only impenetrable to FS1 era weaponry

And I insist that all that talk of the Colossus being able to defeat the Lucifer was standard GTVA propaganda bull****.

As far as we can tell the Luci was armed with two SRed scale beams... so yeah... the Colossus would cream it. Even with it's SSLs the Lucifer still succumbs to the collie I believe.

[Mongoose]

For example, I believe V made it clear that the Lucifer shield was only impenetrable to FS1 era weaponry

And I insist that all that talk of the Colossus being able to defeat the Lucifer was standard GTVA propaganda bull****.

We all acknowledge Command as not being the brightest banana in the bunch, but do you really think that they would have sunk twenty years and God knows how much money into a project that they weren't even sure would perform as it was intended?

[Mr. Vega]

If it was designed as a Lucifer killer, which I highly doubt, then it was designed to kill it in subspace. The Colossus would have to chase the lucifer down the node and kill it in the small amount of time available, which would explain why most of it's firepower is pointed for broadsides.

But regardless, The GTVA wasn't interested in a Lucifer killer. A few wings of fighters and bombers could do that. The Colossus was rather designed to garuntee victory in the set piece battles that the that the Shivans kept wiping the floor with the GTA in.

[Mars]

No... we've established that beam cannons can go through shields, therefore the Colossus can kill the Lucifer anywhere.

[Mr. Vega]

Then allow me to beat a dead horse and express doubt that the pierce shield mechanic would work on Lucifer type shielding.

[BS403]

Ok back to the hades. I think  lower it hitpoints shows that if the GTVA did recreate it they didn't do a very good job.

[Vasudan Commander]

I always figured the Hades to be the GTVA's answer to the Lucifer.....hmmm

Anyway, a question still stands ; does anyone know where I can download Freespace 1 and Freespace : Silent Threat ?


Oh, and whats this talk about Freespace : Reborn ? Is that like Freespace with the SCP mod ?

[Trivial Psychic]

You're thinking of "Silent Threat: Reborn".  There was allot of dissatisfaction with the Silent Threat plot and mission design.  The FS-Port team, while porting The Great War and Silent Threat into the FS2 engine, decided to re-create Silent Threat, with the same premise, but with allot better story.  Not too much is known beyond that, except that we hope it will be released sometime this year.

[Snail]

Silent Threat is even harder to find than FS1, which is harder to find than FS2.

[Grizzly]

The Deimos has the same hull as many corvettes.

And guys, Shivan hulls ARE NOT THAT THICK. Look at the fighters. 100 hp.

the Shivan Fighters are very light, and therefore much manouverable. fire a bit heavier weapon at them an they're blasted away like if youre using a morning star.

[Snail]

All FS1 Fighters had crap hulls. Including the Basilisk.



But that's besides the point. Have a nice day.

[Vasudan Commander]

The Deimos has the same hull as many corvettes.

And guys, Shivan hulls ARE NOT THAT THICK. Look at the fighters. 100 hp.

the Shivan Fighters are very light, and therefore much manouverable. fire a bit heavier weapon at them an they're blasted away like if youre using a morning star.

maneuverable ? pfffft. Look at the Basilisk or Aeshma (i think thats how its spelt) . I dont know what class of fighters they are (Heavy assault), but they fly like a retarded seagull.

[[DW]-Hunter]

maneuverable ? pfffft. Look at the Basilisk or Aeshma (i think thats how its spelt) . I dont know what class of fighters they are (Heavy assault), but they fly like a retarded seagull.

ROFLMFAO OMG, thats hallarious.