Poll

Whats your weapon of choice, pilot ?

GTF Hercules
16 (6.3%)
GTF Herecules MK II
16 (6.3%)
GTF Erinyes
77 (30.3%)
GTF Perseus
61 (24%)
GTF Pegasus
19 (7.5%)
GTF Myrmidon
14 (5.5%)
GTF Ares
43 (16.9%)
GTF Ulysses
8 (3.1%)

Total Members Voted: 252

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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
You never flied any ships in FS2. Nor flew.


Maybe not well, but I flew. :P
But this thing is actually about semantics. We had some discussion about this a while ago and the conclusion was that space ships are piloted. Not flown, not driven, but piloted.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Wait. Did I make a typo that horrid?


EDIT: No, I didn't. A pox upon your silly semantics!

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Touché. I was just inspired to search the unholy source of infinite FS wisdom (Root_fs2.vp, if you didn't figure it out yet) to see whether 'fly' is an acceptable phrase:

Quote from: SM2-03.fs2 debriefing
Flying bombers is hard work, but with a bank of Cyclops torpedoes, you'll have the firepower to neutralize enemy corvettes and destroyers.
There. A canon source says that at least bombers are flown. Alright, who wants a piece of me? We can take this outside. And don't give no 'Vincey doesn't have enough authority' crap.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Actually...I would reply with a :v: might have made a mistake. This is more a grammar matter than a canon VS not-canon.

 

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Given that that i've listed my favourite Galactic Terran fighter, my favourite terran non-FS fighter is the Dragon from WC4 :) the Shivans wouldn't have stood a chance against it.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Where's the Apollo ?

 

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Who said that it's limited only to FS2 craft?

 

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
The Poll implies it, but as we've no doubt noticed the title leaves it wide open. The Apollo is a Terran fighter and should be included ;) (plus the wc4 dragon too :nervous:)
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Loki. :)

Sure, the lack of raw firepower frustrates me when trying to fight things like Erinyes fighters (be it AI or human opposition), but I still like to fly it.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Though the Myrmidon should probably be removed, as a lot of people choose it for it's Helios capabilities.

And in the slightly more un-professional campaigns ( like 'Return to Sol' for example ) you can "cheat" by taking a Myrmidon and placing Helios' bombs in your secondary banks.

And even in the face of the Myrmidon's Helios', and Erinyes fighters, I choose Apollo- best looking Terran fighter ever ! Too bad that the GTA phased it out, because I chose it over Valkyrie anytime I could.

 

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
I like the Ares, it looks mean as anything and pack decent missile and gun banks. Its like an upgraded mark II Hercules.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
It actually IS an upgraded Hercules Mk2 .

 

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
Same cockpit different fighter though. . . . . . . . :beamz:
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And even in the face of the Myrmidon's Helios', and Erinyes fighters, I choose Apollo - best looking Terran fighter ever! Too bad that the GTA phased it out, because I chose it over Valkyrie anytime I could.

I used to like the Apollo a lot until I realised that Fury rockets were the only way to shoot down the SF's before the Avenger cannon comes along. The positioning of the secondary bank gunpoints are simply too far out.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
It actually IS an upgraded Hercules Mk2 .

I realised that a while back. Even though its been heavily modified, modified enough for me to like it because I didn't like the original mark II.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
I don't understand why everyone hates the Myrmi. It got 6 gun banks (more then the Herc II, an Assault Fighter), nice variability when it comes to secondaries (although no harpoon), is quite fast and has not to low armor.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
I don't understand why everyone hates the Myrmi. It got 6 gun banks (more then the Herc II, an Assault Fighter), nice variability when it comes to secondaries (although no harpoon), is quite fast and has not to low armor.


It's supposed to be space superiority, and it's not too good at that job. It feels like, to me, a heavier Apollo, and that was right on the border of becoming an assault fighter. I have quite a bit of trouble dealing with any interceptor, and that simply shouldn't happen with a space superiority ship. It's a decent ship, just mis-classed, and somewhat under-armored for it's actual role, in my opinion.

 

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Re: Favorite terran fighter
I realised that a while back. Even though its been heavily modified, modified enough for me to like it because I didn't like the original mark II.

I didn't like the Herc II either. It just looks ugly. The only thing I liked about it was that it is manoeuvrable and that it had huge missile banks given that it was introduced in the early part of the FS2 campaign.

It's supposed to be space superiority, and it's not too good at that job. It feels like, to me, a heavier Apollo, and that was right on the border of becoming an assault fighter. I have quite a bit of trouble dealing with any interceptor, and that simply shouldn't happen with a space superiority ship. It's a decent ship, just mis-classed, and somewhat under-armored for it's actual role, in my opinion.

I agree with you on that. It's nice to fire Subachs from six gunpoints, but what I didn't like about the Myrmidon was that it's secondary bank capacity was garbage. I won't even try to fit it out with Hornets. If I were to fly in a Myrmidon, I'll always load it out with Tempests.
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Re: Favorite terran fighter
I voted for the Pegasus as the next best thing after my beloved Loki (why isn't that one an option?).
All other Terran fighters suffer from either poor handling or poor power output, either of which I find harder to stomach than the low shield capacities of their Vasudan equivalents.

Some time ago, I did some empirical testing of dogfighting ability (because the tables don't take into account things like gun placement or target profile), and only had a 100% survival rate with the Loki and the Mara. Interestingly, I was spectacularly unsuccesful in the Myrmidon: large profile, mediocre shields and power output isn't a combination I handle well. According to my data, I'm better off lobbing Infyrnos everywhere with a Boanerges!