[peterc10]

When i add a background in FRED 2 Open, it shows when the background screen is open then goes when closed but it when i play the mission, no backgrounds are showing, any1 no wats wrong?

[shiv]

Do you use an official build?

[peterc10]

i use fred2_open_3_6_9-INF

[shiv]

Is it build dedicated for infenro, or official?

Use official. You will work without problems

[Dark Hunter]

IIRC, the Inferno builds simply allow more ships (than the 130) in the game. They may also have a few slight changes to be Inferno specific, but nothing in the backgrounds has changed.

[karajorma]

In the launcher's features section check if you have jpg and tga textures enabled. It's quite possible that these are turned on in FRED but not in FS2.

[DarkShadow-]

I had some similar problems while working on the MT missions. If you work on a mission with two different FRED-exes the mission file can mix up, e.g. I completely destroyed one of the missions and had to restart with a backup version. On another mission, I worked only with the current 3.6.9. build, but background somehow didn't show up. I removed all suns, saved, restarted FRED, re-added the suns and it did work.

You should also try disabling all graphic features (except the JPG/TGA thingie if your background is one of those filetypes), perhaps one of those doesn't work correctly for you.

[peterc10]

when i place a custom nebula (fire01) it works but if i put in a freespace 2 one (neb01_ nothing shows up i have them in the effects folder any ideas?

[Dark Hunter]

Did you modify stars.tbl at all? You have to add an entry there as well in order to get the backgrounds working.

[peterc10]

this is my stars.tbl

; background bitmaps - random stuff
; $Bitmap is for a bitmap which should use the intensity == alpha blending mode
; $BitmapX is for a bitmap which should use 0, 255, 0 == transparent, and no blending otherwise

$Bitmap:  dneb01
$Bitmap:  dneb02
$Bitmap:  dneb03
$Bitmap:  dneb04
$Bitmap:  dneb05
$Bitmap:  dneb06
$Bitmap:  dneb07
$Bitmap:  dneb08
$Bitmap:  dneb09
$Bitmap:  dneb10
$Bitmap:  dneb11
$Bitmap:  dneb12
$Bitmap:  dneb13
$Bitmap:  dneb14
$Bitmap:  dneb15
$Bitmap:  dneb16
$Bitmap:  dneb17
$Bitmap:  dneb18
$Bitmap:  neb01
$Bitmap:  neb02
$Bitmap:  neb03
$Bitmap:  neb04
$Bitmap:  neb05
$Bitmap:  neb06
$Bitmap:  neb07
$Bitmap:  neb08
$Bitmap:  neb09
$Bitmap:  neb10
$Bitmap:  neb11
$Bitmap:  neb12
$Bitmap:  neb13
$Bitmap:  neb14
$Bitmap:  neb15
$Bitmap:  neb16
$Bitmap:  neb17
$Bitmap:  neb18
$Bitmap: nebulA1-main
$Bitmap: nebulA2-main
$Bitmap: nebulA3-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulA14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB1-main
$Bitmap: nebulB2-main
$Bitmap: nebulB3-main
$Bitmap: nebulB4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulB14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC1-main
$Bitmap: nebulC2-main
$Bitmap: nebulC3-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulC14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD1-main
$Bitmap: nebulD2-main
$Bitmap: nebulD3-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulD14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE1-main
$Bitmap: nebulE2-main
$Bitmap: nebulE3-main
$Bitmap: nebulE4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulE14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF1-main
$Bitmap: nebulF2-main
$Bitmap: nebulF3-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulF14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG1-main
$Bitmap: nebulG2-main
$Bitmap: nebulG3-main
$Bitmap: nebulG4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulG14-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH1-main
$Bitmap: nebulH2-main
$Bitmap: nebulH3-main
$Bitmap: nebulH4-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH5-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH6-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH7-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH8-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH9-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH10-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH11-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH12-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH13-whisp
$Bitmap: nebulH14-whisp
$BitmapX: planeta1
$BitmapX: planetb
$BitmapX: planetc
$BitmapX: planetd
$BitmapX: planete
$BitmapX: planetf
$BitmapX: planetg
$BitmapX: planeth
$BitmapX: SunSathanas01
$BitmapX: SunSathanas02
$BitmapX: SunSathanas03

#end

; sun bitmaps and lights - NOTE all $Suns must have a $Sunglow and a $SunRGBI!

$Sun:      SunWhite
$Sunglow:   Sunglow01
$SunRGBI:   1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0

$Sun:      SunRed
$Sunglow:   SunglowRed
$SunRGBI:   1.0 0.1 0.1 1.0

$Sun:      SunGreen
$Sunglow:   SunglowGreen
$SunRGBI:   0.5 1.0 0.5 1.0

$Sun:      SunBlue
$Sunglow:   SunglowBlue
$SunRGBI:   0.2 0.2 1.0 1.0

$Sun:      SunGold
$Sunglow:   SunglowGold
$SunRGBI:   0.74 0.76 0.44 1.0

$Sun:      SunViolet
$Sunglow:   SunglowViolet
$SunRGBI:   0.66 0.44 0.54 1.0

#end

; debris .ani's for NON-nebula mode. NOTE : there must always be 4 of these
$Debris:   debris01
$Debris:   debris02
$Debris:   debris03
$Debris:   debris04

#end

; debris .ani's for nebula mode. NOTE : there must always be 4 of these
$DebrisNeb:   gas
$DebrisNeb:   gas
$DebrisNeb:   gas
$DebrisNeb:   gas

#end

#end

I have all the effects in my maps folder but it still wont show

[asyikarea51]

I have a similar problem in which my backgrounds don't import at all, for example when I create a new test mission and don't mind borrowing backgrounds.

My workaround is to do a manual import via FRED.

[Mobius]

I have a stars tbl much similar to the one you posted, peterc(there obviously are INF bitmaps).

My problem is related to add-background-bitmap. Some bitmaps do not appear! Furthermore, there's one nebula effect from LS package that doesn't appear too!

[Dark Hunter]

Stars.tbl can only handle so many entries, IIRC. If you went over the max wouldn't it just ignore those?

[peterc10]

what is the limit?

[Mobius]

Just checked with FRED. 29 entries. FS nebulae+asteroids from INF.