[Snail]

Find out where the GTI HQ Jotunheim was and we'll find out where the Hades really died.

Besides, if the Hades did crash on a planet, something that big would have caused more than just a little splat like that.

[Devrous]

Nice work Shiv 

Cross-universe mods are always fun. Or would you consider it an "alternate reality" mod? 

[Snail]

'parently it's a alt reality mod.

[Mobius]

I was meaning that it was arbitrary, that we shouldn't follow the infos given by ST. Err, maybe it's exaggerated.

And, Snail, why you don't post in The Pub or the Meeting Hall anymore?

[Snail]

Well I never really got round to getting access to the Meeting Hall... Guess I should...

[Mobius]

Yeah, you should moderate your number of posts

[jr2]

Strange firepoints of fighters and bombers if I remember well + Lucifer side beams...many members have condemned the intro because of its...lack of canon.

I do not recall seing the Hades on Deneb... or the primary banks... and the lucy's side canon is actually in a briefing if you'll look for it.  Can you post pics?  (FRAPS use F10 during VLC or FS playback).  If not, I'll try to find them, and I'll post the pics if I can spot what you're talking about... I think there's a better explaination for at least some of them.

[Snail]

See that plasma blast there? It's firing from the Manticore's missile ports rather than its cannons.



For the Hades, when the smoke clears, and the datestamp 'Thirty-Two Years Later' appears, you can see a crashed hunk in the background. That's the Hades. You can see it's four engine port thingies.


BTW, the Hades was destroyed in Beta Aquilae.

[jr2]

Manticore:
Which are missiles, which are guns?
EDIT: That was question for first pic; second pic, I see, nvm...


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[jr2]

Ah, here we go... I think the quad - engined thingy you're talking about could not possible be the Hades.
a) The Hades was destroyed, not shot out of orbit.
b) The Hades is much larger than that
c) If the Hades had been shot out of orbit, it would have broken up into much smaller pieces; most of it would have burned up in the atmosphere.  Even if it miraculously made it down intact, it would shatter & bury itself in a huge crater.  Most likely what you see is either another ship, or a part of a building, IMHO.



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[Snail]

It's DEFINITELY the Hades. Comparison shots should prove it, however, I wasn't saying that it was the Hades. The Hades died in Beta Aquilae, not Deneb. What you're proving is my point, that the FS2 Intro was non-canon.

[Dysko]

I remember a similar discussion in my old "Ground combat in FS2" thread... it completely hijacked my thread...

[Snail]

Vasudan cargo containers are atmospheric as well as deep-space.

[Mobius]

a) Ok.
b) How you can say that? Do you know the perspective of the camera?
c) Some kind of landing like the one of Star Wars Episode III.

We're speculating, we know that. Canon infos about the destruction of the Hades specify something different.

[Snail]

Huh? The Hades being there? Well, look at it. How can't it be the Hades?

Jotunheim was in Beta Aquilae. The Hades appeared after the destruction of Jotunheim. The player single-handedly destroys the Hades after an hour or so of eating dinner with a rubber band across the trigger of his joystick..

[jr2]

How do you convert CBanis into something I can post here?  Or, just go take a look at CB_ShivoreFootage.ani from tango_fs1.vp in AniView32

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[jr2]

c) Some kind of landing like the one of Star Wars Episode III.

Somehow I doubt Anakin was piloting the Hades in a controlled descent onto Deneb. 

[Snail]

Use ANIVIEW, save frames (that little save disk at the side).



Look below. How can you say it's not the Hades?!?

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[jr2]

Ok, ok, I must admit... but it couldn't be the Hades!  How could they do that!  I assumed that it wasn't, because it's logically and cannonically impossible, for the reasons I listed above.  were they thinking?!?

I must still hold out on the Lucy's side beam, though... see the ani file I menioned, as well as the Lucy's forward claw turret color in-game in FS1. 

[shiv]

It WAS hades...