[Kosh]

You'd be surprised at the numbers of kids 18 and under that have cut themselves, attempted to overdose, or otherwise physically harmed themselves - in the good old U.S.A.

Why is it that most suicides are in the most developed, free and "culturally advanced" countries?

*snip*

Do you have any proof of this?


Your average person from a developing country is just as much of a psychological basket case as one from the developed world.  

[aldo_14]

There's not AFAIK any real reporting of suicide rates in 3rd world countries anyways.

[KappaWing]

No
its back down, much worse than before no hope this time
no hope at all
do not try to contact me

[aldo_14]

No
its back down, much worse than before no hope this time
no hope at all
do not try to contact me

There's always hope; never give up.  We all have **** in our lives, we all face fights and no-ones going to doubt how hard it is for you right now; but there's no sense giving up, and there are people here that care about you and your wellbeing - so there's no way in hell that no-one will try to contact you.

[Bob-san]

Do NOT do what you plan to. Suicide is not the answer; you know better than that... I am sure that you were raised better than that.

You are informed; in front of God, you can no longer use what you were taught or ignorance. Suicide is wrong; it disrupts God's plan.

I know that as of this hour, you are still alive. Do NOT do what you want.

My original ending still stands; Good luck and Godspeed.

[aldo_14]

**** God; the most important thing to remember is that there is no such thing as an insurmountable obstacle, especially not when you have the best parts of your life ahead of you.

[TrashMan]

Do you think he might be just mesing with us?

[aldo_14]

Do you think he might be just mesing with us?

No, and it's not a question worth asking.

[Bob-san]

Do you think he might be just mesing with us?

No, and it's not a question worth asking.

Seconded that answer.

[redsniper]

Awww ****, this is bad.

[Goober5000]

Stop wringing your hands, and start acting.

Here's what I've been able to find out in the past few minutes.  Hopefully someone in the area or having l33t haxx0ring skills can take it from here.

His IP address is 75.118.92.70 and his hostname is d118-75-70-92.nap.wideopenwest.com.  His ISP, accordingly, is WideOpenWest.  A whois lookup resolves the location to somewhere in Michigan, which his user profile confirms.

Here are the IP lookups I used:
http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=75.118.92.70
http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=!%20NET-75-118-88-0-1

According to his profile, he has a MySpace page here:
http://www.myspace.com/kappawing

It's set to private, unfortunately, so I can't see it.  Has anyone "friended" KappaWing on MySpace?  Perhaps he posted more information there.  His user profile shows today as the most recent login date.

[Polpolion]

I agree i'm not suicidal. Circumstances have forced me into that "domain" though. Something has definatley snapped.

No
its back down, much worse than before no hope this time
no hope at all
do not try to contact me

No hope at all? You hit the bottom, absolute worst possible situation?

LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!


Once you hit the bottom, you can only go up...

LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!LIVING IS AWESOME!!!!!

You know what you should do? Start playing an instrument. Play the Saxophone, or something. Anything you can get your hands on. Get it, and learn to play it. Get really good. I play an instrument.  I play alto and baritone sax. When you learn how to play, join a band. If not one o' them guitar bands, then an orchestra or symphony band, or a Marching Band. I suggest the latter, because you make great friends in it, plus it sucks up all your free time, so you never get bored! 



EDIT: Death is like drugs and alcohol. It supposedly takes away all your problems, BUT IT DOESN'T!!! WHOA!!! Death just kills you faster, thats all. They are still both stupid things. thems = bad. We on HLP are all too good for bad stuff. We're better than everyone else. 1 HLPer (awesome people; you) = 86 not HLPer (stupid people who aren't you)

[Unknown Target]

Do you think he might be just mesing with us?

No.

Kappa, come on man, trust me - it ain't worth it. I can't really explain it on a forum, I'd have to talk to you live, but trust me - death is useless as a fix to your problems. It doesn't fix them, it just removes you from them. Everyone else still has to live with your loss - and if you care so much about your mom sacrificing something, do you really think that having her son kill himself would make it better for her? Would it be any less of a sacrifice?

[Goober5000]

I just telephoned tech support for his ISP and they apparently don't have the capability to provide specific information.

Is there anyone here from Michigan or with access to view his MySpace page?

[Polpolion]

I just telephoned tech support for his ISP and they apparently don't have the capability to provide specific information.

Is there anyone here from Michigan or with access to view his MySpace page?

I'm from michigan.  But I don't have acsess to his myspace (it says he last logged in on the 23rd though). So he lives in Troy? Thats not too far from here. Maybe 40 miles or so.

EDIT: Gaa dangit I hate myspace. trying to ressurect my ol' account back from saying "your mother" on everything

Myspace sucks ass.

[Grawr]

On the slim, slight, and always victorious as fate would have it hope that Kappa is still around and is reading this, I'd like to offer the simple advice I was offered in the same situation: Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. All good things come to an end, but so do bad things.

[Goober5000]

Bah.  I just telephoned the police department in Troy, Michigan, but they unfortunately can't do much else either.

Well, I've done all I can; it's in God's hands now.  Everybody start praying.

[fsi.scsi]

KappaWing, if you are at all able or willing to read this post:

It sounds like you have really hit 'rock bottom.'  Several people have already posted the 'obvious' retort to this: that you can only go up from here.  But it may not seem so obvious to you.

You see, I've been in your position before.  I am not saying that qualifies me to judge you.  Rather, I'm letting you know a few things that may help you out.  From your posts in this thread, it seems like for a time things were looking good for you, but now you feel worse than ever.  I understand that some things are too private or painful for you to say -even under a screen name - but you are bottling up your pain inside of you.  And that makes your suffering even worse.  Eventually, KappaWing, you might reach a point where you feel that you're a burden to your friends and family - and that by killing yourself, you are doing a service to society.  It's tempting to believe that, but it's wrong.  No matter how much your parents or buddies hate you - if at all they do - taking your own life will tear apart their entire social universe.  It's not worth it, man.  Believe me.

You say that you want no one to contact you - but you need some one to tell your story to.  It helps a lot when you talk to people who have gone or are going through the same things you are, and it gives you reassurance in humanity (yes, humans are capable of good too) and in the value of your own life.  I was on the verge of doing what you were about to do - and a few good souls pulled me back. 

And if you are convinced that this is your best option, I can only say that I'm sorry.  You have to at least believe that your situation is under your control.  Faith - not just in religion - is one of the great binders of humanity.  Even if you do not believe in God, believe in yourself and your power to rectify your situation.  And if you do believe in God, please pray for strength and guidance from Him.  Good luck, and please make the decision you think is right.

Feel free to PM me.  It's not over until you say so.

-fsi.scsi

[Bobboau]

well if he was considering not killing himself before the clichéd responses probably would have pushed him over it,
"permanent solution to a temporary problem"
"Once you hit the bottom, you can only go up"
and all the "God" responses.

I mean what sort of canned anti-suicide crap is that, it's like it came off of a hallmark card or something. he reads that and he's going to think the same thing, that it's just a canned response and no one is really thinking about the situation. Goob is the only person who seems to be doing anything outside of stereotypical response to a hypothetical suicide.

now if your going to be stupid enough to off yourself, you know what I'll be honest, I'm not going to realy be too upset about it, I'll be a little pissed due to the general stupidity, of the situation, but thats about it. but right now I've got to say this particular situation is especaly stupid "hey what's the best way to kill yourself large group of people who will probly try to stop me" "ok nevermind" "oop, I'm gona do it now!"
so no hope? no hope for what exactly, I have no hope in my life, I have no freinds, I'm 24 spent 6 years to get an assosiates degree, there are people my age I know who are getting a doctorate, I've never had a girlfreind, I'm all alone all the ****ing time with no love from anyone or anything every person I meet seems to have something out for me and I can never seem to do anything right, my life is a dark pit of emptiness, it wouldn't matter at all if I died tomarow, I don't care if I do as I don't seem to be liveing now anyway. what the hell is even the matter with you!? what is it, you come on here and in the most stereotypical cry for help way make it stupidly obvius that you are contemplating suicide you say there are all these problems in your life but you refuse to go into detail.
besides do you know how much a funeral costs these days? someone's going to get stuck with that. and the guilt of you killing yourself, you'd cause much fewer problems for everyone if you just slept for a few days like I do. that's a supriseingly effective method of running away from your problems that doesn't **** everyone else over.

[Sandwich]

So he lives in Troy? Thats not too far from here. Maybe 40 miles or so.

His MySpace says Royal Oaks, not Troy... not all that far apart, but still.