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Offline Tyrian

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Kappa, you and I are actually quite a bit alike.  We both feel that we have to be working on a problem 24/7 or else we will never solve it.  Eventually, I realized that by distracting my mind with a hobby while I had a problem freed me to examine it from other angles I hadn't considered before.  In reality, by taking a "break" from your problem, you're actually still working on it. 
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This year, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union Address occurred during the same week.  This is an ironic juxtaposition of events--one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication, while the other involves a groundhog.

Bumper stickers at my college:
"Republicans for Voldemort!"
"Frodo failed.  Bush got the Ring."

Resistance is futile!  (If < 1 ohm...)

"Any nation which sacrifices a little liberty for a little security deserves neither and loses both." -- Benjamin Franklin

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Offline jr2

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...That's true, especially considering sleep... I read somewheres that when you decide to go to sleep when you're working on a problem, your mind subconsciously works on it while you sleep, and when you wake up of course you are rested and can consciously think about it even better.  Versus, if you don't sleep, you are stuck in the same rut, don't get anywhere, and just get frustrated... although, I admit, going to sleep while working on a problem is hard... sometimes you have to distract yourself away from the problem to sleep, and then hopefully (it probably will) your mind will return to the problem whilst you sleep... if you're lucky, you'll wake up with a brainwave that solves the problem.

 

Offline Ulala

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When I have an awful day (and I do have them fairly often lately it seems), and it feels like I can't do anything to escape, I just sleep for as long as it takes for me to wake up rested and feeling like I can then do something about whatever it is that was plaguing me.
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Offline aldo_14

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It sounds daft, but happy music works for me quite well.

Of course, I'm generally quite a jovial chap at the moment :)

 

Offline Polpolion

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When I have a bad day, I just play video games until the day is over :drevil:

Works perfectly.

 

Offline Tyrian

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I think this is something a little more that a bad day.

Also is right though, sometimes happy music does the trick.  It can also help you think through things.
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Bush (Verb) -- To do stupid things with confidence.

This year, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union Address occurred during the same week.  This is an ironic juxtaposition of events--one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication, while the other involves a groundhog.

Bumper stickers at my college:
"Republicans for Voldemort!"
"Frodo failed.  Bush got the Ring."

Resistance is futile!  (If < 1 ohm...)

"Any nation which sacrifices a little liberty for a little security deserves neither and loses both." -- Benjamin Franklin

Sig rising...

 

Offline KappaWing

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Yes, this is more like a bad month with no real end in sight.

I've been listening to Samael's album "Reign of Light" which has boosted me through some tough spots before but it seems to be doing the trick here, keeping me motivated on a day-to-day basis.
"Your efforts to interdict me have failed, papacy. Pentagon, engage propaganda drive."
"Now, Protestant scum, you will see the power of this fully armed and operational Papal Station!"

 

Offline Mars

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You'll be okay Kappa... just as long as you don't throw it all away, just do one thing for me... give it some more time... this will clear up, eventually... probably pretty soon.

 

Offline IceFire

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Yes, this is more like a bad month with no real end in sight.

I've been listening to Samael's album "Reign of Light" which has boosted me through some tough spots before but it seems to be doing the trick here, keeping me motivated on a day-to-day basis.
Its all about the small victories.  My new Casino Royale soundtrack has been a source of entertainment for me...its been a rough month and I see no end in sight either but eventually something will come together.  I know some people who have been struggling for a while and things are starting to work out.  One guy seems to have had his whole life turn around and seemingly work itself out in a month or two.  Some day it'll be our turn to have things work out.  I'm not sure if they just do or if I have to do something special...that's my current dilemma.
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Offline Dark RevenantX

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Ive known too many people that have nearly gone suicidal.  The only reason they didn't go suicidal is that they thought making fun of me is more entertaining.  If you feel the need to do so, you may flame me to your heart's content.

 
Well, in  my case, those small momentous things would have helped delay the process, but ultimately the outcome would have probably been the same, if not for the actions of a certain group of individuals. 

But Kappa, you're in a different situation, I understand that.  However, look at it this way.  Yes, you may (or may not?  IDK the situation besides what you're posted here) fail this class that gets you booted from the school.  I doubt that, there's gotta be some makeup thing, but we're going with worst case scenario here, so, ok, you get booted.  Your mom (and you) says you're not going to the local public school because it's so bad.  As far as drug problemss go, EVERY HIGH SCHOOL HAS THEM.  I'm in a school of about 150 kids, and I'm constantly astonished by what people in my own class talk about like they're commonplace.  That's beside the point, though.

Anyway, if your mom was being honest in saying they'd move before you go to that one school, what about the next one down in the district, or the next district?  Don't move, just go there.  If none of those wor, and you do in fact move, you say you can't live with the guilt of your own problems causing your family's life to be so transplanted, turned upside down on your behalf.  Man, I gotta be honest with you...  This has gotta be the stupidest point of view I've ever heard.  For one, it would be your parents' choice ultimately, not yours, so you can't blame yourself for making them do anything.  In addition, your parents' chief, number 1, ultimate priority is to give you the best of everything they possibly can.  They want you to be as best prepared as possible for the rest of your life.  How can they do that if you kill yourself?

Also, consider this.  Which would be worse for your parents?  Moving away on your behalf because they want to (they want what's best for you) or you killing yourself?  I'm not a parent myself, but I do know that the worst thing a parent can possibly go through, would be to bury their child. Almost all parents, regardless of how great or crappy of parents they are, if they're given the choice of living miserably on the streets, suffering some horrible disease for the rest of their lives, or giving up a child, they'd choose the former in a heartbeat.  This is bred into the instincts of every semi sentient species on the planet.  You'd be doing infinitely more damage to your parents if you were to kill yourself than you would if they were to move for you, let me tell you.  So quit making reasons why it won't work or why this is the best option and LIVE YOUR LIFE.  You're not even an adult yet!  These problems won't last forever!

And besides, even if you drop out of highschool, you'll do ok at life.

I hope that gives you a little bit of a different perspective on things.
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Offline Kosh

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Yes, this is more like a bad month with no real end in sight.

I've been listening to Samael's album "Reign of Light" which has boosted me through some tough spots before but it seems to be doing the trick here, keeping me motivated on a day-to-day basis.


So what exactly was going on with you there? I think you owe us a bit of an explaination after you had all of us worried sick about you......
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Offline jr2

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Hmph... if you want, Kappa, I can copy some of your talk with me to here for them... whatever you want, let me know.

  

Offline KappaWing

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Since I got all of you worried, I should say that things are back to normal now, by some sort of miracle. I want to thank you all for your support!  :):yes:
"Your efforts to interdict me have failed, papacy. Pentagon, engage propaganda drive."
"Now, Protestant scum, you will see the power of this fully armed and operational Papal Station!"

 

Offline Sandwich

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Great to hear, bro. :nod:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline aldo_14

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Since I got all of you worried, I should say that things are back to normal now, by some sort of miracle. I want to thank you all for your support!  :):yes:

Good to hear :)

(beaten by Sarnie!!! :o! :D)

 

Offline Tyrian

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That's great to hear.  Life can never keep you down for too long. :yes:
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Bush (Verb) -- To do stupid things with confidence.

This year, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union Address occurred during the same week.  This is an ironic juxtaposition of events--one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication, while the other involves a groundhog.

Bumper stickers at my college:
"Republicans for Voldemort!"
"Frodo failed.  Bush got the Ring."

Resistance is futile!  (If < 1 ohm...)

"Any nation which sacrifices a little liberty for a little security deserves neither and loses both." -- Benjamin Franklin

Sig rising...

 

Offline MP-Ryan

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Hrmm, I caught this thread rather late.

Kappa:

Having been through a couple bouts of moderate depression myself, and also having been a teenager and then escaping that hellish period of my life, I can certainly sympathize with whatever was going on with you.

The biggest bit of advice you need is this:  understand your depression.

From what I'm reading here (and a degree in Psych definitely DOESN'T make me an expert), you may be diagnosable with an adolescent form of clinical depression.  And while people like to downplay psychologists (in many cases rightly so), they can play an important role in therapy for depression.

That's because the best treatment for depression is social support.  Which is why it's so great you posted here.

Also realize that depression is often biological.  Even with a social trigger, your mood might be the result of chemistry of the brain due to the fact that you're still growing up.  In which case medications can definitely help if prescribed correctly.

So while you may not think a therapist can be helpful, you might find they can.  I know what it feels like to be depressed.  I know what anxiety feels like too (and panic attacks, oh panic attacks).  I'm simply suggesting that perhaps you should consider going to see a psychologist just to talk about things.  Understand what's going on in your head.  By no means does that mean you're crazy or that you have to spend your life in therapy.  Really, everyone needs a little help from time to time, and professional help is no more valuable than friends except in allowing insight into the medical/mental aspects of the situation.

Something you should also know is that clinical depression, if left untreated, has a very high relapse/recurrence rate - which is why learning more about your thoughts are a great idea.

Just some food for thought.
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Offline Sandwich

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(beaten by Sarnie!!! :o! :D)

Well... doesn't that just eat at you inside? :p :D
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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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