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Offline Turey

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High School Senior, starting on a CompSci Major next year, most likely at CSU SJSU or CSU CalPoly Pomona. Though I might go to a school out east somewhere.

I do farm work for cash. At $11 an hour, it's better than almost any other job I can get.
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Offline Ulala

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Ok...so how many of you like or hate your job?  My contract extension is nearly up so long story short I'll probably end up being offered to stay longer.  Which is good because I'm making money and have very few expenses right now (living at home yes, no cell phone, no car, pay board and food and all that stuff so I'm not a freeloader) and no debt.  So its a good financial situation.  And my co-workers and boss rock.  Great people to be with.  The problem is the job itself...its a painful thing being in tech support. You pretty much hate everyone at the end of the day.

So I haven't figured out when the right time to move on is and if I should expect better things or just more of the same.

I do like my job, everything with it fits well for me, although there are times that it does make me somewhat crazy too. I guess initially, I'd say that happiness is most important, and if you aren't really truly happy with your job then maybe you should find another. On the other hand, life isn't always so rosy nor ideal, so I'd have to ask how long your next contract extension would be. If it's only say 6 months, heck, stick it out and maybe in 6 months you'll have some more appealing prospects. 6 years on the other hand... might wanna get out while you can.
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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So do you take any time out of your work day to read: http://www.dilbert.com/

My co-workers and I do.  One of them has the Dilbert official candy dispenser in his office :)

I do read Dilbert sometimes, and Garfield, and Peanuts (although I'm allergic to it in real life)  :D


Where do you research, if you don't mind me asking? I ask because my school is huge for that sort of thing.

Yes, we have a project that we co-lab with Stoney Brook.  My lab is in Penn Med School :)

 

Offline aldo_14

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So do you take any time out of your work day to read: http://www.dilbert.com/

My co-workers and I do.  One of them has the Dilbert official candy dispenser in his office :)

I do read Dilbert sometimes, and Garfield, and Peanuts (although I'm allergic to the it in real life)  :D

Snoopy fan? :)

 

Offline Sphynx

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Ok...so how many of you like or hate your job?  My contract extension is nearly up so long story short I'll probably end up being offered to stay longer.  Which is good because I'm making money and have very few expenses right now (living at home yes, no cell phone, no car, pay board and food and all that stuff so I'm not a freeloader) and no debt.  So its a good financial situation.  And my co-workers and boss rock.  Great people to be with.  The problem is the job itself...its a painful thing being in tech support. You pretty much hate everyone at the end of the day.

So I haven't figured out when the right time to move on is and if I should expect better things or just more of the same.

I like my job. It is a challenge, but it puts a good perspective on life for me. I also enjoy helping people, so it is a good fit.
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Offline Hippo

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Offline IceFire

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Ok...so how many of you like or hate your job?  My contract extension is nearly up so long story short I'll probably end up being offered to stay longer.  Which is good because I'm making money and have very few expenses right now (living at home yes, no cell phone, no car, pay board and food and all that stuff so I'm not a freeloader) and no debt.  So its a good financial situation.  And my co-workers and boss rock.  Great people to be with.  The problem is the job itself...its a painful thing being in tech support. You pretty much hate everyone at the end of the day.

So I haven't figured out when the right time to move on is and if I should expect better things or just more of the same.

I do like my job, everything with it fits well for me, although there are times that it does make me somewhat crazy too. I guess initially, I'd say that happiness is most important, and if you aren't really truly happy with your job then maybe you should find another. On the other hand, life isn't always so rosy nor ideal, so I'd have to ask how long your next contract extension would be. If it's only say 6 months, heck, stick it out and maybe in 6 months you'll have some more appealing prospects. 6 years on the other hand... might wanna get out while you can.
The next extension is pretty much indefinite.  Its not like I couldn't leave after that...I'm just frustrated where I am.  But its more than job...its life on the whole.  So its sort of a double or triple whammy.  I'm not sure if a new job, possibly in a different (but nearby) city would help or hinder at this point.  Its rock and a hard place.
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Offline Ulala

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Hmm, bummer. I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya that a viable solution will present itself.
I am a revolutionary.

 

Offline Kosh

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Why are you so frustrated?
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Offline Nix

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I've went from being a lowly computer lab assistant in college, to the lone network technician at Brian Head Resort in Utah, now I landed an awesome job as an "Information Systems Support Specialist" for the local BLM office.  Basically, I provide IT/Networking support for everyone in the office, and have experienced yet another dimension of IT.  Luckily, I have an awesome group of people to work with and for, compared to the previous position I was in.  I also am paid nearly 3 times more, with full health, dental and vision benefits. 

I must be one of the lucky ones who doesn't mind working tech support, but I don't work tech support like in a call center, not that kind of tech support.  I hear a lot of people actually DO hate people by the end of the day, because they're frustrated, or whatever by everyone around the office. I thoroughly enjoy this job, and I'm lucky to have landed it in my hometown.  I never knew that I'd make a substantial amount of money, building a retirement, being fully covered by health insurance, happy with a girlfriend, surrounded by friends and family in a small town that I'm used to. 

Here's the kicker.... I didn't need to graduate from college to get this position.  I failed Statistics (ok, lauuugh it up fellas) again (keep laughing) and didn't graduate this semester, but still landed the job.  Experience, and who I knew were the factors involved getting this position.  So I'll say it again.  If you don't need college to get a good job, Don't bother going. 

 

Offline aldo_14

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I passed Statistics on the exam-exemption-exam - it's arguably the most useless class I ever took at uni, including the electives...... ;)

(granted, it was 1st year - oooh, a Von Neumann machine!)

 

Offline übermetroid

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or the Air Force for further training.

Good call. :)

I'll be leaving in July for Air Force basic, then spending a little over a year becoming fluent in Korean or Arabic.

Have fun in Monterey.  I went to college there.  Great place.  Enjoy Laguna Seca as much as you can.

Are you going to be in a aircraft?  If so PM me when you get to the Survival School.  I will make sure you get some good training.  :D
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Offline Nuclear1

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Are you going to be in a aircraft?  If so PM me when you get to the Survival School.  I will make sure you get some good training.  :D

That'll be a while still.  Tech school's about 63 weeks, but that means I'll get to be in Monterey for the summer (and an hour or two south of Concert Central that some call San Francisco.)
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Offline IceFire

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Why are you so frustrated?
Whole series of reasons...but to put it short...the administration doesn't support the department much so its a high-tech shoestring thing.  We've got the talent and vision but not the money to move things forward and not much external support.  Its all politics and stuff.  I'd have left before but the people I work with directly are great.  But I don't blame the job entirely either...its a life thing...I'm adjusting to not being a student but I'm not completely independent either.  Friends are moving away or I'm loosing touch with them or a few of them have just been acting odd recently.  So I'm not sure if a job change or a change of scenery would help or hinder...

Thus the thread...to see what other folks do :)
- IceFire
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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It ain't an easy transition from being a student to a 'worker'.  It took me a couple of years to learn and get used to it :)  At least you have us here, Icy.  I didn't that many friends, and after I moved I almost had no one to talk to apart from my family :)

 

Offline Ulala

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I've went from being a lowly computer lab assistant in college, to the lone network technician at Brian Head Resort in Utah, now I landed an awesome job as an "Information Systems Support Specialist" for the local BLM office.  Basically, I provide IT/Networking support for everyone in the office, and have experienced yet another dimension of IT.  Luckily, I have an awesome group of people to work with and for, compared to the previous position I was in.  I also am paid nearly 3 times more, with full health, dental and vision benefits. 

I must be one of the lucky ones who doesn't mind working tech support, but I don't work tech support like in a call center, not that kind of tech support.  I hear a lot of people actually DO hate people by the end of the day, because they're frustrated, or whatever by everyone around the office. I thoroughly enjoy this job, and I'm lucky to have landed it in my hometown.  I never knew that I'd make a substantial amount of money, building a retirement, being fully covered by health insurance, happy with a girlfriend, surrounded by friends and family in a small town that I'm used to. 

Here's the kicker.... I didn't need to graduate from college to get this position.  I failed Statistics (ok, lauuugh it up fellas) again (keep laughing) and didn't graduate this semester, but still landed the job.  Experience, and who I knew were the factors involved getting this position.  So I'll say it again.  If you don't need college to get a good job, Don't bother going. 

I am so jealous. You pretty much have my dream job. I hope majoring in Information Systems gets me there.
I am a revolutionary.

 

Offline CP5670

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I've went from being a lowly computer lab assistant in college, to the lone network technician at Brian Head Resort in Utah, now I landed an awesome job as an "Information Systems Support Specialist" for the local BLM office.  Basically, I provide IT/Networking support for everyone in the office, and have experienced yet another dimension of IT.  Luckily, I have an awesome group of people to work with and for, compared to the previous position I was in.  I also am paid nearly 3 times more, with full health, dental and vision benefits.

I must be one of the lucky ones who doesn't mind working tech support, but I don't work tech support like in a call center, not that kind of tech support.  I hear a lot of people actually DO hate people by the end of the day, because they're frustrated, or whatever by everyone around the office. I thoroughly enjoy this job, and I'm lucky to have landed it in my hometown.  I never knew that I'd make a substantial amount of money, building a retirement, being fully covered by health insurance, happy with a girlfriend, surrounded by friends and family in a small town that I'm used to.

Here's the kicker.... I didn't need to graduate from college to get this position.  I failed Statistics (ok, lauuugh it up fellas) again (keep laughing) and didn't graduate this semester, but still landed the job.  Experience, and who I knew were the factors involved getting this position.  So I'll say it again.  If you don't need college to get a good job, Don't bother going.

It sounds like you've gotten quite a good deal there. :yes:

The education requirements depend on what kind of jobs you're interested in though. I'm looking for something that is both research oriented and pays well (i.e. not an academic job :p), most likely either a quant post at a bank or hedge fund or something with a military contractor. They pretty much all require a Ph.D. to get hired beyond an entry level position, although in reality, I probably will not need to use more than 10% of what I learn. :p I am getting a good choice of grad schools to pick from though (have gotten into Princeton, NYU, Harvard and Maryland; still waiting on decisions from MIT and Caltech), so hopefully it will be a good experience. It will surely be better than my undergrad years, at any rate.

 

Offline Dynamo

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Why are you so frustrated?
Whole series of reasons...but to put it short...the administration doesn't support the department much so its a high-tech shoestring thing.  We've got the talent and vision but not the money to move things forward and not much external support.  Its all politics and stuff.  I'd have left before but the people I work with directly are great.  But I don't blame the job entirely either...its a life thing...I'm adjusting to not being a student but I'm not completely independent either.  Friends are moving away or I'm loosing touch with them or a few of them have just been acting odd recently.  So I'm not sure if a job change or a change of scenery would help or hinder...

Thus the thread...to see what other folks do :)

Well if you want advice (and it sounds like you do), get a new job. (WARNING LONG ANECDOTE AHEAD)

I worked at the same place for over 5 years. I started there the summer between my Freshman and Sophmore years of college and worked there for every summer and nearly every winter and spring break until I graduated in May of 2005. I started out there as a temp with a two-week contract and by the time I graduated from UD I was hired on as a contractor making like 3 times what I started with. I learned a lot there, probably more than I did in 5 years of college (although that's not saying much considering how seriously I took my college career). I made a lot of friends there and met a lot of really cool people.

However, after a year of contract work, there was still no sight of any kind of permanent position. While I was a contractor, I got no benefits at all. No health insurance, sick days, paid vacation, etc. I didn't even get taxes taken out of my paycheck (Oh, I still had to pay them. April 15th was the worst day of 2006) I kept asking about it but kept getting no answer. So I got fed up and started looking for a fulltime position.

With all the experience I had there, I was able to find a job fairly close to my house that has benefits up the ass and paid pretty much the same amount of money I was making then. It took me a few days to mull it over because of my close relationships with the people I worked with but I decided to take it because I really needed health insurance.

I've been here for almost a year now and looking back on it now, it's probably one of the best decisions I've made in my life (again, not saying much but still....) . The people I work with now are, for the most part, much cooler than the ones at my old job. The work is a hell of a lot better. I've learned more things here in 10 months than I did at my old job and college combined.

As for my old job, I still keep in touch with several of the people I was really close to. The place has seriously gone downhill since I left. (The signs were on the wall while I was there, so I'm not really surprised). Most of my friends got laid off.  My closest friend there found out she was getting fired while at a bar on a business trip from some random coworker from another location. In all honesty, I probably wouldn't have had a position there for too much longer had I stayed. (Besides coming in 45 minutes late every day I also partook in some extra-curricular activities at work such as watching movies on my PSP, playing badminton with one of my co-workers over a cubicle wall, playing DS in the bathroom, etc that probably would've gotten me fired soon if I wasn't laid off anyways.)

I guess my point is once you've been at a place long enough, you can imagine what it'll be like 5 years from now. If you don't see any foreseeable improvement in your situation, then it's a good sign it's time to go. If it's a job you want your career to be in and you feel like you're only there to collect a paycheck and hang with friends, then it goes double. I easily work five times harder than I ever did at my old job and I love every minute of it. I see myself going places here, if not by moving up internally, then by gathering a ton of great experience that can move you up some place else. That's something I never could see at my old job.

One word of warning though, we both work in a profession that tends to get overlooked often by upper management. It happens in a lot of places. There's a big perception out there that IT is an expense. I've seen it in a lot of places (most recently, my current job). It takes a lot of work to change that perspective. Once managers start to see that by increasing IT expenditures will decrease expenditures elsewhere at a higher rate, they'll start giving you more and more. But you've got to make them be able to see it first and that takes a lot of work. You need to make that a goal any place you work in this industry. Otherwise, it'll be the same story over and over again. (Unless of course you get a job a tech-oriented company where the management knows better)


 

Offline CP5670

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Wow, you actually posted. And what a post it was. :D Nice to see you around here again.

 

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