[Ford Prefect]

Ahh, but Mac is the only company I can think of that calls me an idiot for not owning their product.

If they took the approach "we have all these fantastic selling point, here they are!" then that'd be fine. But they just have to throw the whole "by the way, you own a PC? you have, do and always will suck untill you buy one of our Macs".

Little wonder then, that I have no patience for them.

Are you kidding? I've lost count of the number of car commercials that do the exact same thing. Making you feel like an idiot for buying someone else's product has become a standard advertising tactic, as far as I can see.

[Unknown Target]

What? All the car ads I see imply that somehow you'll go on sunset drives through scenic deserted roads, or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.

[aldo_14]

Getting obnoxious?

[Flipside]

The fact is that Mac, if they continue on their current course will continue to dominate a tiny percent of the market, that tiny percent will consider everyone else as 'sheep', the large percentage of the market will think of Mac owners as 'Elitist'.

Thing is Microsoft's advertising far surpasses Macs, why is this?

Because Mac are saying 'If you're clever, you'll buy a Mac.'
MS are saying 'If you just want to be able to use a computer, buy a PC.'

Let's face it, a good 90% of computers in the world aren't being pushed to within 10% of their full abilities most of the time. People just want to be able to switch on and go, there always seems to be some fiddling around with drivers on a Mac before you start using things like Midi ports or Firewire. In the case of Midi ports, you seem to have to set them up every time you turn on the damn computer.

Experienced users can find MS's autoconfigure routines a pain in the arse, I'll freely admit, it drives me up the wall on occasion, but for a newer user, or someone who is working to a time limit, you want to do as little set-up as possible and just dive on in. MS usually wins hands down in that department.

[NGTM-1R]

Getting obnoxious?

Someone hit aldo, he's skipping.

[aldo_14]

Getting obnox......OW!

[Ford Prefect]

What? All the car ads I see imply that somehow you'll go on sunset drives through scenic deserted roads, or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.

That's one genre of car commercial. There's also the genre where two people have different cars, and through some stilted comparison of their features, the owner of the competitor's car comes to the disappointing yet comical realization that he/she has unknowingly settled for a lesser value. It's not just cars-- you can see it all over the place.

[Grizzly]

The worst side of macs: You can't fully play FS2 on them

[Bobboau]

actually you can.

[Unknown Target]

Yea, for a relatively long time now, no?

[aldo_14]

hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.

Does that explain the great Tesco fuel crisis, then?

[Agent_Koopa]

or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.

That commercial was surprisingly direct. >_>

[Nuclear1]

What? All the car ads I see imply that somehow you'll go on sunset drives through scenic deserted roads, or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.

Or that you're unamerican if you don't buy their products.

Not mentioning any Chevy names at all.

[Turnsky]

Macs once had a niche amongst the graphical community, now, they don't..

of course a lot of mac users reconcile themselves to be the 'top shelf' type, dispite most PC's being able to outperform most macs.

[Mongoose]

Or that you're unamerican if you don't buy their products.

Not mentioning any Chevy names at all.

Ugh...if I hear that song one more time, I'm going to find John Mellencamp and force him to listen to himself for days on end.

[Turnsky]

Or that you're unamerican if you don't buy their products.

well that's fine by me, i can be as unamerican as i'd like! 

[Ace]

Now I'll admit to recently getting one of the new Mac Books because it looks nice and does have, in its own bizzare way, right mouse clicking.

The first thing I did? Deleted the MacOS partition.

Biggest problem I had? The insistence that I needed a disk of XP with Service Pack 2 to install the OS as opposed to simply letting me use XP. Similarly the mac "boot camp" software which is so "easy to use" didn't send me the drivers so I had to download drivers from my main computer and send them over. Effectively they seemed to purposefully try to make the install as difficult as possible (let alone all of the bull**** on the website for this procedure screaming that "The PC world is dangerous... let us take all of your burdens... hallowed are the Ori...").

Now it's a fully working XP machine, and could use Vista if I ever had to. The only downside to it is the Intel video card, but at least it's honest about being crap instead of the mobile Nvidia or Radeon cards. I can play less resource intensive games such as FreeSpace, WoW, Galciv, and Sword of the Stars perfectly on it when I'm bored.

But the whole "PC v.s. Mac" thing is bull****. They *are* PCs, same hardware now. The only difference is the OS which while pretty is a piece of ****. The only reason there aren't that many Mac viruses is because... not too many users and real targets (unshaven college kids and yuppies don't count) don't use them.

[Scuddie]

Actually the reason why virii/worms were not a big problem in Apple's history is because the CPU (IBM Power architecture) did not execute overflow from the page stack or buffer, which was the primary way virii and worms would be programmed.  Now that Apple uses Intel CPUs, all bets are off.  It is likely that there will be a (relative) surge of virii that affect Macintosh systems, and it will instill a much needed sobering experience.

[Fineus]

I do find myself almost wishing that virus creators would target Apple to make that point - that their machines are no more secure than anyone elses. I've no problem with companies making claims about their products if those claims hold water, but if the only arguement is "nobody has proven us wrong yet" - that's just not good enough.

[Turey]

I do find myself almost wishing that virus creators would target Apple to make that point

Could the SCP coding team take a break for a while and work on this instead?