[Bobboau]

me too

[Scooby_Doo]

Jesus camp takes place at Devils Lake, ND (hahah the irony)

DL has been having troubles for years with the lake overflowing. I'm about 70 miles north and 80 miles east of there.

[Kosh]

Devil's Lake is a hell of a place to host a christian camp......


 

[Bobboau]

oh, I though it was in Kansas city, I'm a bit further than I thought.

[Kosh]

The main pastor is from Kansas City (and appearently many of the kids are from there too), but the actual camp is held in North Dakota.

[Bobboau]

well I live just near St.Louis which is exactly one Missouri away from Kansas city, about 200 miles away.

[Kosh]

That isn't exactly near it then........

[Bobboau]

it's like a 3 hours drive. that's not far, it's closer than Chicago, and I consider Chicago close.

[miskat]

Now, I myself am Christian, but my mother raised me to be open minded and to always be looking for the beliefe system that most fit me as a person.  So I watch this and feel somewhat ill.

Creationism is really the only answer to all the questions.

And a thought comes to mind: This kind of belief is only for Christians who, for whatever reason, feel the NEED to pretend that they are "in the know" about all of Gods workings (and in the case of a lot of Christians I have met, all of Gods plans, as well.)  The rest of us, who can be comfortable with NOT knowing everything, are able to find real answers and then look back at the Bible and feel like we have seen more of what God want's us to see than just text on a page.  If the Bible is "The Word" and a picture is worth a thousand words... then real objects, portrayed by real pictures, all created by God, but be worth a thousand Words.

Sorry... that kindof close-mindedness scares me.

[Getter Robo G]

That's kinda funny, when I was that age I didn't want to fight for God, I wanted to join the RDF and fight for Earth (God could be my co-pilot though, cause I control this stick *****!)

[TrashMan]

Life is indoctrination.

From everyone, for everywhere, all the time. Accept that.

[Polpolion]

I'm glad I'm not going into an area of work that anything like this could affect.

[Mars]

Anyway, I don't care if parents teach their kids what they want, because, as kids age they tend to form their own beliefs.

QFT... my parents were (and still are) a lot like the mother in this video... the real world tends to clear peoples heads of all this bull ****.

[aldo_14]

Life is indoctrination.

From everyone, for everywhere, all the time. Accept that.

Bollocks.

You're confusing education with indoctrination.

indoctrination
    * teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically

doctrine
    * a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school

[Bobboau]

so there is no belief (or system of beliefs) which you accept as authoritative?

and did not someone teach you to accept it?

[aldo_14]

so there is no belief (or system of beliefs) which you accept as authoritative?

and did not someone teach you to accept it?

Was that to me?

[Bobboau]

yeah, don't you believe in things like equality and that all people have a right to live? didn't you learn that from someone? don't you want to teach your kids that?

[aldo_14]

yeah, don't you believe in things like equality and that all people have a right to live? didn't you learn that from someone? don't you want to teach your kids that?

indoctrination
    * teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically

My own opinions were not formed without consideration; much of my life has been education, that is the act of critiqueing opinions and positions to pick the one which makes most logical and rational sense.  Whilst I may 'pull' opinions from a variety of sources (parents, friends, workmates, environment, TV, this form), I still make a decision which I agree with based on a critical evaluation.

[Flipside]

Indoctrination is knowing you shouldn't kill people.
Education is knowing why.

[Agent_Koopa]

Life is indoctrination.

From everyone, for everywhere, all the time. Accept that.

Ooohh, deep.