[Thorn]

True, but if youre going to do it, you're better off taking every precaution you can...

[an0n]

Yeah, if you crack the plastic on your joystick you could get electrocuted....or crash the game!!!

[Sandwich]

 

Originally posted by an0n:
Anyhow, if you want your marriage to last then you're gonna need to know how to please yer bird on the honeymoon. The only way to do so is to practice, practice,....

Hmmm, interesting concept here. Are you saying that if you marry, it won't matter if you love each other or not if your or their sexual performance does not reflect frequent pratice? Because I had thought that 2 people marry because they love each other for who they are, not what their batting average is.

In my book, love has a very specific definition: willingness to go out of the way for the benefit of others, even if that means that you yourself will be incovieneinced.

The ultimate expression of love is to lay your life down to save someone else. Sacrificing all, for someone else's good.

Therefore, if I love someone, it won't matter what faults they may have. I love them for who they are, not who I want them to be. And nobody on this board can honestly say that they do not desire to be loved for just being who they are, faults and everything.

So, to get back on topic - I consider sex to be of very special significance (and it's obvious that the rest of the world does, seeing as how so much of the entertainment world revolves around sex). It is something that I want to keep solely for my future wife and I - it is the signing of the marrige agreement.

Venom, I agree that the likelyhood of this discussion ever getting anywhere is slim, but I don't see it as my job to convince anyone that what I believe is right. I'll just "enjoy" seeing everyone's opinions and replies - as long as they're civil.  

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[Unidan]

 

Originally posted by Wildlife:
I think if you love each other enough, then yeh,  
i agree with premarital sex  

 

[an0n]

 

The ultimate expression of love is to lay your life down to save someone else. Sacrificing all, for someone else's good.

 

From:Jerusalem, Israel

And you think that self sacrifice is a good thing?

Self-sacrifice is bull-**** . Self preservation at ALL costs. If someone has been put in a position where you could decide wether they will die deserves to die.

[Thorn]

I dont think that was what he was trying to say.....

[CP5670]

As far as I am concerned, sex of any kind is equal to stupidity of the highest order.     (and I'm pretty much an atheist)

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[delta_7890]

Well...I never thought I'd see this pop up on the forums...anyways, to add my teo cents (which are worth absolutly nothing, but...you're gettin' 'em anyways...like when a bum washes your windshield...but that's another story...

Anywho, I really don't see a problem with premarital sex.  It's just yet another way of expressing your love for another human being.  I really don't see why it should be something you have to wait for to experience.  Of course, i don't approve of prositution or sleeping with any woman you can get your gruby hands on.  That's just sick, and really shows how pathetic you are.  

[Nico]

 

Originally posted by sandwich:
 I'll just "enjoy" seeing everyone's opinions and replies - as long as they're civil.    

well, I prefer to enjoy certain stuff other peoples deny to themselves because of strange beliefs  

[delta_7890]

 

Originally posted by venom2506:
well, I prefer to enjoy certain stuff other peoples deny to themselves because of strange beliefs  

...I don't think I want to know what you meant by that...

[an0n]

 

anyways, to add my teo cents (which are worth absolutly nothing...)

Disney Dollars!

[Nico]

 

Originally posted by delta_7890:
...I don't think I want to know what you meant by that...

nothing wrong, you sick mind  

[wEvil]

i cant be bothered to read the thread but no premarital sex is an utterly lucicrous idea.

A society that practises that would have a huge number of divorces.

Hey - why dont we allsay no to conraception while we're about it?

No contest.  You **HAVE** to know what you're getting into, and as far as im concerned marriage means you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. It might mean something else to the rest of you but thats my 2 quid.



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[Ulala]

 

Originally posted by Setekh:
Apart from my Christian beliefs, there's a lot of common sense things that say no to premarital sex.

Agreed.
Sorry to bring more religous beliefs into this topic, I know some people dont enjoy reading them. Anyway, the Bible says not to fornicate, and not to commit adultry. (I can find the scripture references if you want them for any reason) The Bible being the living word of God, and God breathed, and my belief is to follow God's instructions... I believe premarital sex is wrong. I know I'm sinful, but these two sins I dont plan on ever committing within my lifetime.

[Sandwich]

 

Originally posted by wEvil:
i cant be bothered to read the thread but no premarital sex is an utterly lucicrous idea.

A society that practises that would have a huge number of divorces.

Ummmm... has anyone checked out the current divorce rates for the US or UK?

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Ulala:
Agreed.
Sorry to bring more religous beliefs into this topic, I know some people dont enjoy reading them. Anyway, the Bible says not to fornicate, and not to commit adultry. (I can find the scripture references if you want them for any reason) The Bible being the living word of God, and God breathed, and my belief is to follow God's instructions... I believe premarital sex is wrong. I know I'm sinful, but these two sins I dont plan on ever committing within my lifetime.

hmm, I won't comment about the religious stuff, but to you premarital sex= adultry or fornication? huh.

[Darkage]

I already had it before i even think about marieing, but i don't like to go whit every girl that i can get my hands on thats just sick. I don't ask a girl i wait until she want's it if she doesn't want it in the course of our releation ship then it doesn't bother to me. And if i like a girl and vica versa then it must be atleast a longer then a 5 month relationship before i/her comit to it. And it must be fun to do not every day or 3 times a day, once a week or maby once in every 2 months is just fine by me or no sex i don't realy care about it any way.

As for premarital sex i think thats for everyone's own decision and or religion they follow.

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[Stryke 9]

Absolutely. Are you not allowed to love someone before you get married? Is it immoral to know what all that's about before you get chained for a significant part of your life to the first girl you wanna knock up? There's nothing "Christian" about the decision- Catholics, the very first christians, were known libertines for centuries. If you're more of the Protestant persuasion, well, half the Protestant religions were founded because some guy wanted to shag whoever took his interest- King Henry VIII? Brigham Young? Jesus Christ himself was concieved outta wedlock- your entire faith is predicated on the idea that Mary's husband, Joseph, was NOT the father. Up until the recent few centuries nobody was all that uptight about bastardry and what was involved there, short of a few elitist upper class prigs who were obsessed with pure bloodlines and some zealots looking for an excuse to torture and kill those different from them. Guess who started the recent fad of hating all the basic body functions? That's right, our good old friends in black hats with belt buckles, the Puritans. They were shipped out of England to an untamed hellhole of a colony specifically BECAUSE they were annoying, self-righteous ******** , and by some freak accident, they not only survived, but took over a continent, and that continent culturally took over Europe and all subsidiaries. Name the point in the Bible where it specifically says you can't bang before getting married- sure, they've got a commandment saying you shouldn't go sneaking around w/ your neighbor's wife, but that's just plain bad manners. You could probably quote something obscure from Leviticus that suggests it, but I dare you to try and use the Old Testament- just try. If you wanted to take the religious, sanctimonious aspect on this, you'd better be prepared to go the full way and do the only thing the Bible actually says is good- TOTAL chastity, TOTAL abstinence. I'll see you in a cave without food, water, or electricity. Just like a saint.

"It's not Christian" has been used for every sort of personal prudery in history, from eating certain meats to sex to the lightbulb to being a Jew. It's how maniacs and the uninformed defend their personal prejudices- nothing more.

Just try defending the "It's not Christian" standpoint. Just try. Ignore everything Jesus said about love and see whether I can humiliate you on your own ground.  
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[ZylonBane]

It would be interesting to know what percent of the "No Premarital Sex" camp are in fact still virgins.

There's an easy loophole, anyway. If you never get married, then none of your sex is premarital!  

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Stryke 9:
I'll see you in a cave without food, water, or electricity. Just like a saint.

No HLP?!?
"faints"