[chief1983]

Maybe New Orleans should pay to rebuild New Orleans.  I frakking hate that place.  Some of the stories I've heard just make me want to bomb the floodwalls all over again, without any warning.

[achtung]

I lost what little respect I had for New Orleans when they started shooting at rescue helicopters.

[DeepSpace9er]

Quote from: aldo_14 on March 21, 2007, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: DeepSpace9er on March 21, 2007, 04:33:27 PM
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1. It's a bill to end the war. It is good.

2. Anything that funds the rebuilding of New Orleans is good.

I knew the GTVA did something wrong when they didnt pass a bill to end the war with the Shivans.




(GTVA being the US Coalition. Shivans being the islamofacist xenophobes)


Remind me which side has the ludicrous stereotyping and simplistic black and white rhetoric?

I mean, I can see the analogy - the Shivans, like 'islamofacists' invade the GTVA (US) with massively overwhelming forces, killing millions of civillian and military to occupy space, and are only defeated through a combination of guerilla warfare and a near-suicidal attack on their biggest 'target'.


aldo wins.  flawless victory.

There are many millions of them worldwide who would do just that given half the chance. The point i was making is that wars arnt won by the winning side deciding to end it, they are won by forcing the loser to surrender. Passing a bill to end the war without forcing the enemy to surrender is losing.

 Of course the GTVA was the winning side.. they had Alpha 1.

[Nuclear1]

There are many millions of them worldwide who would do just that given half the chance. The point i was making is that wars arnt won by the winning side deciding to end it, they are won by forcing the loser to surrender. Passing a bill to end the war without forcing the enemy to surrender is losing.

Right now there's no real way to "win" in Iraq; the best we can do is establish a stable government and allow the Iraqis to take it from there.  On that same note, there's never going to be a genuine "end" to the War on Terror as we've seen in Vietnam, World War II, or even the Cold War.  The first few were wars of people versus people, nations versus nations, with a distinct goal in sight that would allow one side or the other to win (i.e. forcing the Communists to withdraw from Vietnam, causing the collapse of either the US or the Soviet Union during the Cold War).

The War on Terror is purely a war of ideas, and ideas, as V for Vendetta stated, are bulletproof.  You can only expect to win a war of ideas by convincing the other side that they're wrong, not by beating them senseless or killing them all.  If this were a war purely against Saddam's regime, or purely against the Taliban government in Afghanistan, then we really would have won a long time ago.  It isn't though.  We're dealing with a much larger force; an idea, not an enemy.

[Mr. Vega]

Yep, this thread sucks. A lot.

So, what do we all drink these days? Water?

[Nuclear1]

Yep, this thread sucks. A lot.

So, what do we all drink these days? Water?

Sweet tea, actually.  Lots of coffee in the morning, then sweet tea throughout the day. 

Unless I'm at the movies.  In that case, it's coke after it's had a while to get the fizz out.  Don't you hate it when you down a lot of coke at once, then burp later and it burns your nose?

[Mr. Vega]

Eh, I'm paranoid about caffeine ruining my memory.

[Ford Prefect]

Don't you hate it when you down a lot of coke at once, then burp later and it burns your nose?

I kinda like that, actually. I find it somehow satisfying.

I've been drinking a lot more orange juice lately, in my small effort to reduce the amount of high fructose corn syrup I consume.

That and Starbucks lattes, 'cause they're like an orgasm for your mouth.

[Mr. Vega]

And that, my friends, is a textbook derailment.

[Nuclear1]

Eh, I'm paranoid about caffeine ruining my memory.

I didn't really like my pre-third grade years anyway.

Don't you hate it when you down a lot of coke at once, then burp later and it burns your nose?

I kinda like that, actually. I find it somehow satisfying.

I've been drinking a lot more orange juice lately, in my small effort to reduce the amount of high fructose corn syrup I consume.

That and Starbucks lattes, 'cause they're like an orgasm for your mouth.

I go for the Starbucks mochas, actually.  Specifically white chocolate.

Orange juice is good, though.  It and milk counters the horrendous taste of coffee at 6 am.

[Mr. Vega]

And in the name of all that is good and civil, should the next politics thread also suck, then it shall also be derailed.

[chief1983]

Yeah, I think they went along with it cause nobody cared.  Cheers to derailment of crap.