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Google Ads are back
on: March 30, 2007, 04:49:20 pm
We've brought back Google banner ads on HLP. Donations have slacked off tremendously, and with the server jointly costing us and Game Warden upwards of $100/month, we need a different source of income.

Those of you who've been around for a bit may remember the slight fiasco which led to our previous Google banner ads being revoked - fraudulent & repetitive clicks on the ads in order to increase income. DON'T DO THIS - I cannot stress this enough. Don't go to ANY sort of special effort to click on ads. Just behave, pursue what genuinely interests you, and all should be well.
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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 04:56:20 pm
So is it okay if I automatically ignore the ads and never click them?
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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 05:09:10 pm
Let's just say that that would be far preferable to over-clicking. :)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 05:23:42 pm
Well I just clicked on a LEGO ad....... and it genuinely interested me..... :P
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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 05:25:16 pm
Is any revenue generated just by the ads being viewed?
 

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Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 05:50:14 pm
Not that I know of, unfortunately.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 05:57:35 pm
Hmm, well I was just wondering whether those with ad-blockers could help by disabling them for this site; I guess not...
 

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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 05:59:01 pm
Of course it helps to disable ad-blockers... people who can't see the ads have NO chance of clicking on them. :p Besides, ad blockers were mainly needed back in the flashy banner ad days. With Google textual ads, I don't see the need for ad blockers anymore.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 06:04:52 pm
True... Isn't there a way to set Google preferences, to let them be aware that this is mostly a Gaming / Sci-fi / action / adventure type of audience?
 

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Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 06:13:45 pm
Perhaps. I'll look into it.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 07:24:18 pm
What about those scrolling ads? You know, the ones that flash with all the bright colors? They are very annoying. Are you sure it's just google ads? Because I don't mind Google ads.

EDIT: Yup. 10/10 times I loaded the forum index, one of those scrolly imvu ads was there. I don't really think those are Google ads.

???
 

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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #11 on: March 30, 2007, 08:33:58 pm
I get both. Google ads and the IMVU ones.
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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #12 on: March 30, 2007, 10:23:39 pm
WTF? I just saw an ad for john mccain!!???!!??

What did you guys do? I thought all you got was google ads?

John McCain != google!!!
 

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Reply #13 on: March 30, 2007, 10:32:52 pm
Quote from: thesizzler on March 30, 2007, 10:23:39 pm
WTF? I just saw an ad for john mccain!!???!!??

What did you guys do? I thought all you got was google ads?

John McCain != google!!!
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Reply #14 on: March 30, 2007, 11:10:11 pm
Good catch.  Actually, John McCain = Yahoo!.
 

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Reply #15 on: March 31, 2007, 01:36:41 am
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The Google ads you are able to display on your content pages can be either cost-per-click (CPC) or cost-per-1000-impressions (CPM) ads, while AdSense for search results pages show exclusively CPC ads. This means that advertisers pay either when users click on ads, or when the advertiser's ad is shown on your site. You'll receive a portion of the amount paid for either activity on your website. Although we don't disclose the exact revenue share, our goal is to enable publishers to make as much or more than they could with other advertising networks.
Depends on ads apparently. So disabling those ad-blockers on hard-light.net AND game-warden.com DOES help.

Use of ad-blockers is stupid because you're hurting every site's financial income you visit. You mostly visit the sites you like to visit, don't you? Wouldn't it be in your interests to keep those sites running? Then stop using ad-blockers. HLP and GW are not exceptions in using ads to bring them much needed revenue to pay for the bills to keep the site running. If they don't get enough revenue from ads, admins/owners have to pay the bills from their own pockets until they decide enough is enough and the site is killed.
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Re: Google Ads are back
Reply #16 on: March 31, 2007, 01:47:40 am
Quote from: Fury on March 31, 2007, 01:36:41 am
You mostly visit the sites you like to visit, don't you?

Nope.  I search for interesting things all the time, and the last thing I want is ads all over the place.  If I decide I like the site, then I might disable the ad-blockers... it would certainly help if 99.99999% of ads weren't stupid.  The ones for eBay are OK, but the rest of them are :wtf: On TV, you see ads for things you might use/buy/be entertained with.  On the internet, alot of it seems to be different, less useful stuff.
 

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Reply #17 on: March 31, 2007, 01:55:57 am
Nevertheless, even then you leech off the bandwidth they've paid for. The least you could do is not to block their ads (if any) and give something in return that way.

I've always regarded ad-blockers sort of overreacting. I've never needed any blockers to ignore ads.
 

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Reply #18 on: March 31, 2007, 01:58:17 am
Well, if just viewing them generates revenue, then I guess you're right... but I have no intention of checking any of them out unless they interest me.  (This doesn't make sense to me... the companies putting the ads out want to make money too, but I have almost never found an ad worth checking out [that was before I started using ad-blockers].)
 

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Reply #19 on: March 31, 2007, 04:50:58 am
Google has in the past year or so introduced graphical banner ads in addition to textual ads, which can be allowed or disallowed at the discretion of the AdSense account owner. In our case, since we're sharing a server with GameWarden that MatthewPapa is paying for (and since my AdSense account was disabled on account of invalid clicks), these ads are from MP's AdSense account, and however he chooses to define them is what we get.

Now personally, I'm fine with static or gently changing images as banner ads. It's the spasticly blinky flashy ones that I hate. So, if those start showing up, or if lots of people really hate any kind of graphical banners, let me know, and I'll work with MP to limit the ads to textual ads only.
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