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Offline Snail

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #20 on: April 12, 2007, 03:56:03 pm
No, as it's public.
 

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #21 on: April 12, 2007, 11:34:52 pm
Not sure if this helps any, but IIRC black takes the most size, right?  Anyway:

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #22 on: April 13, 2007, 12:55:26 am
I don't know about gif and png, but with jpg, it has to do with transitions in colors I believe, since it's based on the mpg frame format.  So the more different color areas, the bigger the photo you would have I believe.
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #23 on: April 13, 2007, 07:44:20 am
Quote from: jr2 on April 12, 2007, 11:34:52 pm
Not sure if this helps any, but IIRC black takes the most size, right?  Anyway:

No, it's compressed data.

For GIF the compression is runline, meaning that if you have a vertical gradient (where the colors change from top to bottom), the compression would be excellent, since each horizontal line would be the same color value. Take that same gradient and rotate it 90 degrees, to where the gradient runs from side to side, and the filesize will increase noticeably.

JPG compression is lossy (doesn't retain the original image information) is based on blocks of 8x8 pixels, where it divides the image up into 8x8 blocks, and - depending on the level of compression - begins to omit smaller details in that block.

PNG I'm not so sure about, but 8-bit PNG's have limited color tables (up to 256 colors, like GIF), while 24-bit PNGs have full-color (8-bit for each of red, green, and blue) plus 8 bits of alpha transparency.

So the largest GIF would probably be one where there are no repeated colors in any individual line. The largest JPG would probably be one where the quality level (inverse of compression) was set to 100, and the image was pixel-sized static. The largest PNG is anybody's guess. :p

EDIT: Here's some of the largest images I can come up with without going overboard in trying. :p

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #24 on: April 13, 2007, 10:38:17 am
You know, what I find a bit surprising, is that while the solid black ones went from .png to .gif in size, the colorful ones were the other way around.  Interesting to know, I'll have to keep that in mind.
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #25 on: April 13, 2007, 03:40:47 pm
Interesting.  Thx, SandwichTM :D
 

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #26 on: April 13, 2007, 08:08:48 pm
Granted, that JPG is at maximum quality (100, as opposed to typical web quality compression for photos at around 60 or so). And the PNG does have an alpha channel in addition to everything else. :)
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #27 on: April 21, 2007, 10:09:05 pm
can i request a "project avatar" representing "ultra n00b"?
 

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #28 on: April 22, 2007, 03:19:15 am
You can request. It won't get you anywhere, but you can request. :)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
  

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #29 on: April 22, 2007, 03:24:49 am
Can I request that INFA get a new badge? A GREEN ONE!! OMG!
 

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #30 on: April 22, 2007, 03:32:14 am
INFA? Is that a cute cuddly nickname for Inferno?
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #31 on: April 22, 2007, 04:44:05 am
No, it's the Informatica Corporation. :P

Really, it's Inferno Alliance.
 

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Reply #32 on: April 22, 2007, 05:44:14 am
Is there a difference between Inferno and Inferno Alliance? Same project, right? If that's the case, and the Inferno team / project head wants a new badge, he can request one.







...and if you're the project head, I'm going to feel very ignorant and out of touch and crawl away into a hole somewhere for a very very long time. :nervous:
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #33 on: April 22, 2007, 06:09:27 am
Take a look at hosted support board, there is already a topic about INFA badge.
 

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Reply #34 on: April 22, 2007, 07:43:23 am
Indeed, thanks Fury. Continue this subject here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,46469.0.html
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #35 on: April 24, 2007, 10:09:33 am
Gah!

Now that there's these shiny new avatars, I might have to get around to starting up that FreeSpace Installation Coalition or whatever.
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Reply #36 on: April 24, 2007, 10:11:28 am
:wtf:
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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #37 on: April 24, 2007, 10:45:39 am
:yes: Sounds like a plan... so, who'd be on it, Turey, hip63, ShivanSpS... anyone else that I'm not thinking of?
 

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Re: Project Avatars
Reply #38 on: April 24, 2007, 10:47:12 am
Quote from: jr2 on April 24, 2007, 10:45:39 am
:yes: Sounds like a plan... so, who'd be on it, Turey, hip63, ShivanSpS... anyone else that I'm not thinking of?

How about yourself, you seem to be head of promotions already!  ;7 :yes:
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Reply #39 on: April 24, 2007, 11:00:38 am
Hmm, I dunno... that's an idea.. I'm sure there are other people promoting stuff, though... we could certainly form a group, I guess.  *shrugs*  I'll wait for input on this one.  What you guys think?
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