[Mustang19]

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Talk:GTC_Aeolus

Don't you think that people tend to overrate the Aeolus? It has as many anti-fighter beams as a Fenris (2), half as many as a Leviathan (4), and if you go into FRED and make a mission as I mentioned in the Talk page, the Aeolus can be killed by only one wing of bombers. This contrasts with the page's claim that "at full strength Aeoli can fight off ~ 12 bomber wings and survive".

IMO, this article needs to be really cleaned up. The Aeolus is OK for picking off individual fighters or for providing air defense for a more important ship, but on its own it doesn't fair well, and is hardly "The biggest, baddest, and meanest cruiser EVER", particularly when compared to the Lilith or even Leviathan.

[Wanderer]

If you mean the 'veteran comments' section.. well.. IMO those are just personal opinions anyway.

[Turey]

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Talk:GTC_Aeolus

Don't you think that people tend to overrate the Aeolus? It has as many anti-fighter beams as a Fenris (2), half as many as a Leviathan (4), and if you go into FRED and make a mission as I mentioned in the Talk page, the Aeolus can be killed by only one wing of bombers. This contrasts with the page's claim that "at full strength Aeoli can fight off ~ 12 bomber wings and survive".

IMO, this article needs to be really cleaned up. The Aeolus is OK for picking off individual fighters or for providing air defense for a more important ship, but on its own it doesn't fair well, and is hardly "The biggest, baddest, and meanest cruiser EVER", particularly when compared to the Lilith or even Leviathan.

Veteran Comments and the Tech Room Descriptions are off-limits. "The biggest, baddest, and meanest cruiser EVER" was in the FS2 Demo.

EDIT: I also tend to agree with the article. The Aeolus is deadly. Go play the multi mission "Codename Robin Hood" on Hard and see if it gives you a new appreciation for the Aeolus.

[Mobius]

The Aeolus is always a strong opponent and it is widely used in many, too many, campaigns.

It is much better than a Leviathan... it has two SGreen and can rely on flak guns as well.

[Goober5000]

Mustang19, what difficulty level do you usually play on?

[Vretsu]

The Aeolus is a godlike cruiser. Unlike the Fenris and Leviathon cruisers, it has FLAK. Lots of flak. Six flak turrets, to be precise, all with excellent coverage. If you somehow manage to make a successful strafe, the aa guns with finish you and the blob turrets will shoot down your torpeedos. Then the Aeolus will kill the hapless medical frigate you were escorting with its duel SGreens. Then, the Aeolus will dance on your grave. Afterwards, the Aeolus will sell your sisters into slavery, cremate your pets, and trash your stock portfolio.

Nothing stops the Aeolus. The Aeolus is impervious to scurvy, tax audits, shielded fighters, and anti-cruiser torpeedos. The Aeolus is to fighters as the Sathanas is to anything dumb enough to drift in front of it.

FEAR THE AEOLUS!! OH MY GOD, PLEASE FEAR THE AEOLUS!!!

*collapses*

EDIT: WE'RE ALL DEAD!!

EDIT2: *spasm*

EDIT3: AEOLUS!!

[Snail]

Did I give you this idea in that other thread?


The reason the Leviathan was able to take down more of them was because it has FOUR AAAf guns.

[Mustang19]

Mustang19, what difficulty level do you usually play on?

Insane, almost always. Although the results are pretty similar on all difficutly levels. Apparently (I'm not sure), the lower the difficutly, the stronger friendly craft are and the weaker the enemy's are in terms of hitpoints. I can't see how else my wingmen seem to last so much longer on Very Easy. What I am pretty sure about is that higher difficutly = better AI, which matters little for either a bomber or AAA.

The Aeolus is very effective against Mr. All Alone Alpha 1. But flak turrets aren't very good at shooting down bombs. I don't know why. I guess that it has to do with accuracy. The Aeolus' only real asset is its flak. It has 3,000 more hitpoints than a Leviathan, but rather poor beams, and its flak is of only marginal use when spread out firing against multiple ships. As FS2 capships go, its AAA is relatively good, but as far as I can tell, all capships are no more than up-your-kill-score targets against an intelligent attack, and the Aeolus is not some kind of God-weapon that can handle "~12 wings of bombers" like the entry says. Maybe one wing.

But it's just a Wiki article, and I won't set this quiet board on fire because of my opinion.

*raises white flag*

[Wanderer]

Opinions are always valued but if they are left unsaid they have no value at all.

Also if you test ships (as enemies in missions) remember to change all AAAf to AAAh to get some feeling of the beam accuracy.

And the The biggest, baddest, and meanest cruiser EVER. The Aeolus will smack you up. is earlier description of the ship (from demo version) so really shouldnt be changed.

[diceman111]

I normally play on easy or normal and I thin that the Aeolus is hard to take down (But then again I totally s**k at FS), besides against other cruisers or a Moloch it is better than any other Terran or Vasudan Cruiser dont know abnout the Lilith though thats one hard thing to kill.

/Dice

[Snail]

The Lilith blows the **** out of the Aeolus until its beam gets disabled.

[MP-Ryan]

The Lilith blows the **** out of the Aeolus until its beam gets disabled.

Even then, an unwary fighter pilot can take some serious damage from its laser turrets.

[Mustang19]

Yeah, but you'd have to be pretty damn "unwary"... even the AI doesn't get hit by those things.

The point I'm making is that although the Aeolus seems excellent because against an individual fighter (ie Alpha 1) it is very efficient, but against a wing or so of bombers, it isn't that tough. I'm actually going to feature an AI bomber attack on an Aeolus in my next campaign, just to... make a point.

[G0atmaster]

The Aeolus is a godlike cruiser. Unlike the Fenris and Leviathon cruisers, it has FLAK. Lots of flak. Six flak turrets, to be precise, all with excellent coverage. If you somehow manage to make a successful strafe, the aa guns with finish you and the blob turrets will shoot down your torpeedos. Then the Aeolus will kill the hapless medical frigate you were escorting with its duel SGreens. Then, the Aeolus will dance on your grave. Afterwards, the Aeolus will sell your sisters into slavery, cremate your pets, and trash your stock portfolio.

Nothing stops the Aeolus. The Aeolus is impervious to scurvy, tax audits, shielded fighters, and anti-cruiser torpeedos. The Aeolus is to fighters as the Sathanas is to anything dumb enough to drift in front of it.

FEAR THE AEOLUS!! OH MY GOD, PLEASE FEAR THE AEOLUS!!!

*collapses*

EDIT: WE'RE ALL DEAD!!

EDIT2: *spasm*

EDIT3: AEOLUS!!

I know something that can stop them!!!  Budget cuts!!!  They pwned it according to the story
.

[Snail]

Uhh... I don't know, but this seems to be a load of baloney:

Oddly enough, I found this to be more vulnerable to bombers than an Orion

In the veteran comments of the Hecates. What rubbish is this?

[Mobius]

Well...I read in an article that the Hecate is cheaper than the Orion...that's incredible, really.

[Snail]

Exactly where?

[Mobius]

There were Veteran comments so I guess it comes from the Wiki. It's pretty old, however...

[Snail]

Whoever wrote that was a retard. The Hecate is both larger and is far more advanced. I hardly call that cheaper.

[Mobius]

Correct. I would also criticize the fact that it has just 100,000 hitpoints...it's obviously well defended. The Hatshepsut has much more hitpoints, for example...