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Offline Mongoose

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Re: Worst anime cliches ever
Mongoose here being a good example. I find his comment scary, honestly. But I won't hold it against him, as long as he won't try to force feed me his views.
Scary? :lol: I have to say, that's the first time I've had my preferences in entertainment described as such.  And I'm not even that "hardcore" of a fan; I've gotten to know a great group of people on the [adult swim] forums over the past few years, and the majority of them have probably seen several dozen times the amount of anime I have, at least.  I honestly wasn't trying to come across as some sort of rabid fanboi; I just saw in Ryan's post the same close-mindedness that I had myself experienced for so long, and I wanted him to at least consider the possibility that his opinion was based on generalities that aren't exactly accurate.

What I can say about the reason I like anime as a whole is that, until the point when I first saw a few episodes of a fairly serious and intelligent show (which was primarily Wolf's Rain, if anyone knows the series), I'd never imagined that animation could be used in that manner.  I've been a fan of animated entertainment my whole life, but up until that point in my life, I'd only seen it as really being applicable to kiddie cartoons or Simpsons-esque adult sitcoms.  The fact that there were a lot of serious, intelligent, and flat-out beautiful animated works out there targeted at adult audiences completely blew my mind, and I've been trying to immerse myself in the medium more fully ever since.  I think a quote from the New York Times about the American premiere of director Satoshi Kon's latest movie "Paprika" sums my feelings up best; it goes something like, "This film proves that Japanese animators are reaching for the stars, while their American counterparts are stuck playing in the kiddie sandbox."  It's that very sentiment that explains why I became a fan in the first place.  Sure, there are a lot of ****ty anime series out there, just like every other form of entertainment, but the potential of the genre as a whole is so much greater than anything that the rest of the world has been able to churn out.

At any rate, for anyone even remotely considering giving an anime series a shot, try finding yourselves a copy of the English dub of Cowboy Bebop, and watch at least through the fifth episode or so.  I think that series, more than any other I've ever seen, exemplifies what the genre is capable of, and how truly artistic it can be.

 

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I have to say I've gotten a little sick of anime that tries to preach at me, like some of the Gundam series do. (The only thing that keeps me from instantly recommending 08th MS Team anymore is that I rewatched and noticed they were getting preachy. Still has the best attention-to-detail mecha stuff I've ever seen, though.)
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Offline Unknown Target

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Yea, I hate anime that tries to tell you all it's moral values and war is bad and whatnot. It always comes off as stupid to me.

That being said, the only anime I have ever liked was the Macross series of shows + OVAs (except Macross 7 and Macross II), and The 08th MS Team.

 

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Good god, I just wanted to talk about the cliches not start a "I hate anime" thread. :wtf:

 

Offline Mr. Vega

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Yea, I hate anime that tries to tell you all it's moral values and war is bad and whatnot. It always comes off as stupid to me.

Which is why Trigun was so frelling good in that it actually did a serious portayal of the pacifist's dilemma.
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A couple more ;):

19-The taboo of kissing (as seen in every single harem anime) - basically anime characters are terrified to kiss someone else because when and if they do, it must immediately means they're dating, are going to get married, have two kids and die happily together, the sole exception of this is when the cute little girl (who's probably the series mascot) kisses someone because she's "innocent and doesnt know what she's doing" (but in reality she knows far better then any adult).

20-Just defeating the villain is not enough (good example: Shurato)-even if the main villain of the series is a cruel mass murderer and has already terrorized hundreds of thousands, the main hero will always just try to defeat him, not ever will he contemplate to kill him for good because he believes he can "save" him.

21-Why, is that a stranger at our door? - Anime families have a tendency of picking up and immediately adopting any strangers (wich are, surprisingly, with amnesia and have a terrifying secret that even when revealed, the family will still consider him/her part of the family because they love him/her) that runs into them or are found in weird places like the trash (Chobits) and they dont even bother calling the cops or anything else.

22-Girl#1:Hy! I'm his wife! Girl#2: Over my dead body,****! (absolutely best example: Tenchi Muyo) -just see any harem anime for the explanation of this.

And, please, if you hate anime, simply dont post here.

 

Offline Mr. Vega

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When the hero has a three hour, detailed fight with the villain and they make one last climactic charge at each other, followed by a lot of unnecessary light and noise so the animators don't have to show what actually happened after getting our hopes up for three goddamn hours and jump to the part with the villain slumped on the ground and the hero still standing.
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*Snip*
One question: What the **** is 'harem anime'?!

 

Offline Sarafan

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*Snip*
One question: What the **** is 'harem anime'?!

Harem anime is a type of anime genre where the main male character is surrounded by numerous attractive, female characters, most of which (if not all of them) are romantically interested in the main character.

For more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_anime

  

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I'll admit i haven't seen much, but 08th MS, Cowboy Bebop, Macross and the like have a lot to recommend for it.  But the one thing  I hate is the symbolism heavy endings that they pull out of their ass.  Now ive taken a few honors lit classes n my day, so i don't think my puny brain just can't handle symbolism, i mean I've read Allegory of the Den and Moby Dick.  But when a show that previously made complete sense for 90% of its run, then ends and leaves you wondering WTF Just Happened?! annoys the hell out of me.


Oh that and the most over used statement "Don't Underestimate Me!!"
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Offline TrashMan

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    The few animes that are GREAT therefore do the following: they resolve their central conflict in a reasonable manner, that gives us an appreciable message.

    Some stuff off the top of my head:
    Area 88
    Akira
    Cowboy Bebop
    Ghost in the Shell
    Millenium Actress
    Paranoia Agent

    most Miyasaki films (Nausicaa, Porco Rosso ect.)



No Vision of Escaflowne? Heresy! :hopping: (series is way better then movie)
Roourin Kenshin (the movie...series suck)
Macross saga? (original TV show) is good.
Macross Plus?
Cowboy Beebop the Move: Knocing on Heavens door.
REcords of hte Lodoss War (not that good, but still)
Nobody dies as a virgin - the life ****s us all!

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REcords of hte Lodoss War (not that good, but still)

I swear, Lodoss (both the OVA and the series) is the most overrated anime I've seen, all I've heard of it was that it was great but its nowhere near that, it's pretty much an average show.

 

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    The few animes that are GREAT therefore do the following: they resolve their central conflict in a reasonable manner, that gives us an appreciable message.

    Some stuff off the top of my head:
    Area 88
    Akira
    Cowboy Bebop
    Ghost in the Shell
    Millenium Actress
    Paranoia Agent

    most Miyasaki films (Nausicaa, Porco Rosso ect.)



No Vision of Escaflowne? Heresy! :hopping: (series is way better then movie)
Roourin Kenshin (the movie...series suck)
Macross saga? (original TV show) is good.
Macross Plus?
Cowboy Beebop the Move: Knocing on Heavens door.
REcords of hte Lodoss War (not that good, but still)

I consider VoE - HIGH ENTERTAINMENT, with good mecha; romance; drama ect., something I thorougly ENJOY and CAN WATCH MULTIPLE TIMES...

...but from a strick ELITIST BASTARD POV, I won't consider it GREAT. (As in GREAT stuff that DEFINES an ERA, a PROBLEM or even PERSONALITY TRAIT).
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What's up with the stupid capitalization?

 

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Anime does funny things to the mind.  :nervous:

 

Offline brozozo

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maybe HE'S just AN IDIOT.

 

Offline Polpolion

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maybe HE'S just AN IDIOT.

How ironic.


When Derek Smart came here a while back, he capitalized like that. And now you. d3r3k.

 

Offline Mr. Vega

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Ugh.....please...shut up. Both of you.
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assaults of thoughts on the unthinking.
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You children better all shut up, or else i'm going to turn this car around and there'll be no Disney Land for anyone!

 

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He said the unholy name !!!!! altough he used 3 insted of E but it has been said!

Now 10000 years of darkness wil descend upon us!

*some guy raises hand*
"Why 10000?"


Well. :nervous:...actually it's 9832, but 10000 sounds more ominus... :D
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