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Offline mikhael

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Originally posted by Zeronet:
Not eating meat actually deprives you of bacteria needed to help you digest food...

...bacteria need to help you digest MEAT.



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Offline Zeronet

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Originally posted by mikhael:
...bacteria need to help you digest MEAT.


Yeah, so when you dont eat meat, those bacteria can cause complications.
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Offline delta_7890

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Yeah, so when you dont eat meat, those bacteria can cause complications.

No no no!  He means those bacteria are only consumed to digest *meat*.  If you don't eat meat, you can digest the other foods fine.  So...in essence, you need to eat meat to be able to digest it...wow...I kinda confused myself...  
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I warned you... I feel a little Al Gore coming on...

First of all, the hippie movement was only superficiallya political movement. The clear motive of the movement (at least, clear to all those who have come any closer to the hippie/yippie ideology than watching an actor playing a hippie get stoned on the televised astroturf or listening to what Rush Limbaugh has to say about them), is to increase individual liberties, to the point of near-total (if not complete) dismantling of the government. Basically, Yippies and hippies like to enjoy themselves however they want to, without our puritanical sensibilities getting passed off as legitimate laws and preventing them from being proud, happy human beings with the perfectly natural desires to get high, get laid, and not have to pay to take a **** . Anarchists, if you're that sort of person. The politics of the hippies were ostensibly communist, where everyone shares in everything, including both labor and resources, but it's clear they dissaproved of the sort of authoritarian fascistic government required to start up a proper communist nation by their reaction to our own capitalist authoritarian government.

Ecofreaks, on the other hand, are an increasingly quasifascistic group who believes that humanity as a species is wreaking havoc on nature (everything not humanity), and that their goal in life is to minimize the human footprint on the world as much as possible. On occasion, ecofreaks adopt parts of hippie culture, first of all because the minor hippie philosophy promoting humanity in a natural state, second because both groups opposed similar factions, and finally because even ecofreaks want to enjoy themselves a little (though not too much, that might hurt something or make them look bad). Fascists, not anarchists. Opposide ends of the spectrum, were the spectrum noncyclical.

Anyone ELSE wanna say it? I haven't made anyone look like a complete putz yet, but the next person to fail to at least think will feel the brunt of my logical/rhetorical wrath.  

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Offline Nico

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amen!  
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Offline JR2000Z

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I'm not sure which is worse.

Hippies or ecofreaks.
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Offline Stryke 9

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That's a matter of personal opinion, I suppose, if you really think about it... obviously enough, while I no longer subscribe to either ideology, I still tend to lean towards the hippies (well, technically, I'm an ex-Yippie by philosophy, but the two are similar in many ways)...

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Zeronet: Delta is right. If you don't eat meat, you don't get those bacteria that later help you digest meat. You don't need them. Sorry, no one ever died from being a vegetarian. My wife has gone for nearly 18yrs as a lacto-ovo vegetarian. She's living last I checked.

Yup. Just checked. She's still kicking. At least, if she's unhealthy for not eating meat, its not affecting her yelling voice.  

Stryke9: Very nice summation. I wouldn't waste too much more effort, though, on the people who continue to insist ecofreak==hippie. You can lead a man to knowledge but you can't make him think.

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Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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Originally posted by JR2000Z:
I'm not sure which is worse.

Hippies or ecofreaks.

Hippofreaks  

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Offline Unknown Target

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That is hilarious!
I LOL'd at number 31's comment, geez, now everyone in my house is looking at me funny

 

Offline Kamikaze

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I don't like ecofreaks... the earth's going to melt away eventually! (sol will expand and die etc.)  

Well, decidedly I'm a Nihilist in some of my beliefs... but that doesn't prevent me from enjoying life...  
Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers in the preceding generation . . .Learn from science that you must doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman

 

Offline CP5670

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I found numbers 35 and 43 the best.

 
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Zeronet: Delta is right. If you don't eat meat, you don't get those bacteria that later help you digest meat. You don't need them. Sorry, no one ever died from being a vegetarian. My wife has gone for nearly 18yrs as a lacto-ovo vegetarian. She's living last I checked.

of course, more proof is that I have been a vegetarian my entire life (15.41 years), and I am posting this.

 

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you don't know what you're missing  
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you don't know what you're missing  

Too damned right! I'm not a hard core carnivore, but I love me some spicy italian sausages and a thick juicy steak and properly fried chicken and burgers. Gods, a nice thick juicy burger with cheese and chili and coleslaw... Man. I'm hungry. I need to have a cookout.

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It's not only for bacteria... Meat and animal products are the only way for the human body to get the B12 vitamin it needs + the human digesting system is not made to process only plant stuff.
Being vegetarian is like a fish jumping onto the dry because he hates water. That's scientifically approved (The vegetarian thing, not the fish  ).

 

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Why would meat taste so good if it wasn't for us to eat it? What would be the whole point of having cows at all?  
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Originally posted by Starwing:
It's not only for bacteria... Meat and animal products are the only way for the human body to get the B12 vitamin it needs + the human digesting system is not made to process only plant stuff.
Being vegetarian is like a fish jumping onto the dry because he hates water. That's scientifically approved (The vegetarian thing, not the fish   ).
Your body may not be set up like a bovine's for digesting only vegetable matter, but it is not harmed by not consuming meat, so long as your nutritional needs are met.

Whilst, indeed, you can get macrocytic anemia from a B12 deficiency, lacto-ovo vegetarians (Those who eat cheese and/or eggs) easily avoid it. Also, you can get B12 in a vitamin supplements without much effort.


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Hmm, It looks like Stryke has said the most sensible thing I've ever heard him say.


Oh and BTW. He Is a hippie  

PS. Hippies write a lot of free software. That you unknowingly use almost every day. I am not a Hippie myself but I understand and respect their beliefs more than a lot of other more common views.

 

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Originally posted by Top Gun:
Hmm, It looks like Stryke has said the most sensible thing I've ever heard him say.


Oh and BTW. He    Is a hippie      

PS. Hippies write a lot of free software. That you unknowingly use almost every day. I am not a Hippie myself but I understand and respect their beliefs more than a lot of other more common views.

Dear gods! That might be the first time I've seen RMS showered and smiling.

BTW: is that Free as Speech or Free as in Beer?  

 

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Offline Stryke 9

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Hmm, It looks like Stryke has said the most sensible thing I've ever heard him say.

*little bow*
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Hippies write a lot of free software. That you unknowingly use almost every day.[/b]

The only middle-aged adults I know of who have openly embraced computer technology, specifically the internet, are all ex-hippies. Strange, but I guess the culture is the closest thing we have nowadays... depressingly enough.

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I am not a Hippie myself but I understand and respect their beliefs more than a lot of other more common views.[/b]

I still have yet to forgive the originals for not taking the revolution all the way, but the hippie philosophies decidedly make sense in a time of mindless fads resembling stampedes, panicked attempts to hoard the units of an arbitrary system of power and prestige, and a short man with a funny-looking face standing up on a platform in front of millions of citizens and vocally decrying "evil" as a trait of specific groups who must be exterminated.

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