[rsaxvc]

I just finished a basic model of a Mon Calamari cruiser, and I'd like some feedback/advice. Keep in mind, this is not 'the' mc cruiser, if you a particular one in mind, but more of one that would fit into the fleet, as each ship was unique.

http://rsaxvc.zapto.org/starwars/moncal/
There's also odd bits of a black line wrapping around parts of the ship-this is a blender artifact, afaik, and is not in the renders

[Wanderer]

Engines (or thrusters do not look like Mon Calamari stuff) something like seen in light MC cruiser or something.. That is not so exposed, more recessed type design might look more MCish.

IMHO the aft section just doesnt look 'right' with such thruster pods

[rsaxvc]

Looking at the side shots, I agree about the thrusters-they seem to stick up a bit from the hull, I'll fix that and update when I do.


rsaxvc

uh oh...my server just went down


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[rsaxvc]

server's back up-dunno why it went down. The Chief grabbed an imageset from me earlier, and its a bit older, but in case my box flips out again:
http://swc.fs2downloads.com/sshot.php?subdir=Capships/MonCal_rsaxvc/

also, I shortened the engine housings on all 5 thrusters-should it be even thinner, or is it good at present?

rsaxvc


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[Turambar]

well, it looks mon-cal ish

so i got 2 questions

polycount?

size? (relative to other SW ships)

[Colonol Dekker]

size? (relative to other SW ships)

Do you realy need to ask that ?? 


You;ve seen ROTJ i take it

[Turambar]

size? (relative to other SW ships)

of course, but this isn't one of the ships seen in return of the jedi, and mon calamari cruisers can vary greatly in size, but still have similar shapes, which is why i'm asking.

Do you realy need to ask that ?? 


You;ve seen ROTJ i take it

[Colonol Dekker]

I thought they were all an average of about 1.6k > 2k.

I may be wrong though

[chief1983]

Yeah, the big ones are all a bit larger than an ISD I think, and more heavily armored.  Don't worry either, he's eager to make this ship just right I think, so leave any other comments you feel necessary.

[rsaxvc]

I actually did this ship in relative space, so right now its one "something" long, about "1/3" something wide", and "1/4" something tall. However, this is easily fixed-how long should it be? 1.5 to 2klicks? This is my third model, and frankly, I have no clue how to do a poly count in blender-I'll work on that.

rsaxvc




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[Wanderer]

IMO those thrusters should be closer to the hull like these have:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MC80_Star_Cruiser_%28Home_One_type%29
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MC40a_light_cruiser

[rsaxvc]

You guys remember XWing? Those engines was sorta the look I was going for. I don't think I'll bring the engine mounts closer to the hull, maybe shrink the cylinders and add more bubbles/stretch the main bubbles back so the hull is more continuous.

Polycounts:
Renders-3.1M
Dimension shots-200k

I guess...I guess that's a little much

This folder has some of the cut,camera angle shots, all the way to number 6, which is render-quality
http://rsaxvc.zapto.org/starwars/moncal/polyshots/

[Topgun]

too check the poly count go into face select mode and look at the right hand corner. it also says the total in object mode.

[rsaxvc]

What's the maximum amount of polys for an fs2 model to still be playable? Right now I've got a decent one at 12k and a much nicer one at 49k

There's a file here:
http://rsaxvc.zapto.org/starwars/moncal/polyshots/polycounts.txt

that lists the poly counts for the files in
http://rsaxvc.zapto.org/starwars/moncal/polyshots/

[Topgun]

I don't think it matters, but 49k will run very slow on most (read my) computers.

[rsaxvc]

I'm inclinded to use the lower res model (http://rsaxvc.zapto.org/starwars/moncal/polyshots/2.png) and try to make up for it with a good texture. Speaking of that, anyone have a good base texture for a mon calamari ship?

[Turambar]

start from that model, but add details to it (actual turrets, smaller blisters in detail boxes, bridge structures, etc.)

then, increase the smoothness until youre at about say, 40k polygons

then we see how it works.

[brandx0]

One thing that's great about the moncal is that while we know it'll be high poly, we can use a fairly small texture for it, being as its simply randomly placed armour plates and the like, if you look at the ship, it could be accomplished with a small, tiled texture as long as it looks random enough.   Large textures eat up performance more than large polycounts

[rsaxvc]

More screenshots for the basic hull here:
http://rsaxvc.zapto.org/starwars/moncal

I'm going to start an MC80-liberty class as soon as I can find some good vertical schematic shots looking down and up. If anyone's interested in playing with the this model, let me know soon, as I disappear for the civilized world on Friday and with that my webserver goes down, likely for about 2 months.

Chief-snag those pictures off my box and repost on the swc page.

[chief1983]

Dang.  I just got on the internet for the first time in several days, I'm out of town helping the grandparents move, and haven't been able to do much lately.  If I do get those images I'll get them uploaded to the SWC site.  If anyone else saved them let me know.