[TrashMan]

I allways wondered where that ominusmusic is coming from whenever something goes wrong...An orchestra on board - how ingenius!

Anyone seen a episode of Spongebob about the hunt for a Big White Clam?

To win, GTVA command must ORDER all orchestra on all ships to only play victorious and glorious music! Nothing can go wrong then!

[Bloodstorm]

Orion by far looks so much kooler cruising past than a Hecate.
When the MT destroyer (cant remember name),(in derelict) and fires off all the beam cannons it looks wicked. Wouldnt be look nearly as good if it was a Hecate.

[Koth]

It's called the MTD Auriga. The Orion is of course the best Destroyer. 3 BGreens and 4 Terslash can't be wrong.

[BlueFlames]

To win, GTVA command must ORDER all orchestra on all ships to only play victorious and glorious music! Nothing can go wrong then!

What do you think plan-B is, after Alpha 1 gets shot down in any given mission?

[Game_Master64]

A1 die? blashphemy

[Polpolion]

To win, GTVA command must ORDER all orchestra on all ships to only play victorious and glorious music! Nothing can go wrong then!

What do you think plan-B is, after Alpha 1 gets shot down in any given mission?

Play recordings of the Orchestra while they send out all the actual people from it to fight.

[BlueFlames]

Oh, now there's an idea....  Jettison the orchestra out an airlock....  Your fleet can't repel harmonies of that magnitude!

[MT]

Oh, now there's an idea....  Jettison the orchestra out an airlock....  Your fleet can't repel harmonies of that magnitude!

  I don't get it, I thought those harmonics are used to power the beam cannons? Why eject the very power supply of your main guns?

[TrashMan]

Let's not forget..you must also forbid them to play any "impending doom" music...ESPECIALLY the one from the move jaws....or else shivan superships will start appearing and pwning the GTVA

[AlphaOne]

well lets asume this if an Orion destroyer has any kind of reasonably deacent captain then that captain will take on more fighters and interceptors on its hangars then bommbers. Why? Because he can use his main guns to take out the enemy warship a lot faster then bommbers can. That can not be said for the Hecate which would obviously have more bommbers and heavy fighters on it to take care of the enemy warships since well its main cannons have trouble taking out even enemy cruisers fast enough let alone corvettes or destroyes.

The point is the Hecate while a very good ship or the role it was designed would have a very hard time in close quarters combet with other warships exclueding its fighters and the enemy fighters. And again the problem is not necesaryli that it can not inflict enough damage but rather it can not inflict enough damage fast enough.

I mean Look at the Hatshepsut and the Orion the 2 beasts can inflict an insane amount of damage so fast it makes the Hecate seem like baby when compared.

However since shivans seem to have fighters pouring out of they freaking arse every few seconds the Hecate is one ship that the GTVA must have. Why because it has a superrior fighter capacity ideal to help out the other warships on the battle field. And as far as we know it may be the destroyer wiht the most fighter carryng capacity in game...altough this is just a speculation on my part.

I mean the hatsheepsuit was abviously built for close range havy battle via beam cannons whyle the Heacte was built to ensure the GTVA has fighter/bommber superiority on the battlefield See they tend to complement each other.

some of you will say that this mean that the Hatshesut class destroyers then carry fewer spaceships. But i believe that is not the case since they do seem to have at least an equal amount of spaceships to the Hecate. However if they do indeed have fewer spaceships carryng capacity then a Hatshepsuit surely does not have fewer the the Orion. Arguement: It's a nevwer warship with improved tech and its VASUDAN.

In this respect I believe the Hatshepsut to be a couple of metters per second slower the the Hecate due to its increased armour HP and while having formidable C&C tech on it the Hecate is probably superior in this respect since it would help her perform her duties .

Also I believe the Hatshepsut is a newer desing then the Hecate and was probably built with some leasson learnt from the Hecate designs. Even thou it is terran the vasudans would of probably learned from it.

Also the Hecate would be better of replacing its terslashers with vasudan beams since they tend to be somewhat better at recharging. And that would help the Hecate quite a lot.

[Mustang19]

It's called the MTD Auriga. The Orion is of course the best Destroyer. 3 BGreens and 4 Terslash can't be wrong.

Maybe you didn't notice the SD Lucifer up there.

Of course the Lucy would win out of all these. It isn't really useful to talk about the effectivness of various capital ships, as combat effectiveness is determined mostly by plot concerns. Remember Bearbaiting? How many hundreds of fighters/bombers do you think the Sathanas has? Why does it only scramble a dozen or so?

"Realistically", the bomber complements of these destroyers are so huge that it would really be the pilots who determine the outcome of the battle, not the beams. Plot and mission balance requirements determine victory on the FS battlefield more than armor or armament.

[Dark Hunter]

Personally, I think the MTD Auriga would provide a fairly even match for the Lucy (and no, I am not just basing that off of a quote in Derelict). Especially if its

Spoiler:

beam inhibitor

was active.

[Snail]

Of course the Lucy would win out of all these. It isn't really useful to talk about the effectivness of various capital ships, as combat effectiveness is determined mostly by plot concerns. Remember Bearbaiting? How many hundreds of fighters/bombers do you think the Sathanas has? Why does it only scramble a dozen or so?

Most likely because it used them all up earlier.

[Gamma_Draconis]

The Shivans were able to bypass the beam inhibitor after fairly quickly. So it would have the first shot, but the Lucy can still heavily damage or destroy the Auriga.

[Koth]

Maybe you didn't notice the SD Lucifer up there.Of course the Lucy would win out of all these.

Maybe you didn't notice that the standard armament of the Lucifer in FS2 is 2 Sred which give it less firepower than a Rakshasa. It could barely harm a Leviathan. Its only saving grace is its ridiculously high amount of Hitpoints.
Of course if you change them to SSLs or Lreds it becomes quite powerful.

[Vasudan Commander]

I still think that the Hatshepsut is the best destroyer. It might have a weaker hull compared to others, but its design is that it is meant to outflank other ships, not attack them head on. Hell, no GTVA ship would attack a shivan destroyer on, except perhaps a demon. Strange though, the SD Demon's design is very different compared to other ships. Its firepower is dispersed evenly around the ship, not all concentrated to the front. Functions more like a base then an attacking vessel.

[colecampbell666]

It's called the MTD Auriga. The Orion is of course the best Destroyer. 3 BGreens and 4 Terslash can't be wrong.

Maybe you didn't notice the SD Lucifer up there.

Of course the Lucy would win out of all these. It isn't really useful to talk about the effectivness of various capital ships, as combat effectiveness is determined mostly by plot concerns. Remember Bearbaiting? How many hundreds of fighters/bombers do you think the Sathanas has? Why does it only scramble a dozen or so?

"Realistically", the bomber complements of these destroyers are so huge that it would really be the pilots who determine the outcome of the battle, not the beams. Plot and mission balance requirements determine victory on the FS battlefield more than armor or armament.

As said earlier, beams fire faster than bombs.

[Polpolion]

But if you have 20 bombers...

[colecampbell666]

But if you have 20 bombers...

The beams on any competent destroyer (Orion, Hatshepsut) could cripple a carrier before it could release 20 bombers.

[TrashMan]

I still think that the Hatshepsut is the best destroyer. It might have a weaker hull compared to others, but its design is that it is meant to outflank other ships, not attack them head on.

The Old Hatshy has more HP than most destroyers in game IIRC...

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BEAM CANNONS

Advantages:
- long range
- can't be intercepted
- do a hell of a lot of damage
- can be fired the second the ship pops up (in or out)
???

BOMBERS
Advantages:
- you can have more of them than you have beam cannons
- linked fire
- can carry trebs?
???