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Offline Hades

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The Colossus cutscene was bs.It says that the Colossus was bigger than 12 Lucifer class destroyers.Its only bigger than 3.
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
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Offline Flipside

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I always feel a strange level of concern when a signature is notably longer than the text of the post.....

Oh, and are we talking length, or volume?

 

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[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

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Thing is, I don't know the dimensions of the Colly exactly, but it only has to be 3 times as long, twice as wide and twice as high as the Lucifer for 12 of them to fit.

Edit: After playing around in Fred for the hell of it, I think the correct number is around 9-10 Lucies, thogh I'm not really sure what possessed me to check ;)
« Last Edit: June 25, 2007, 09:47:16 pm by Flipside »

 
I also was disappointed to know it's lack of turrets. Only 12 missile batteries and 15 flak cannons over such a huge surface area?

I dunno, guess my standards for a uber-powerful ship are a little high, since i come from the XWA area, where star destroyers have probably 50+ turrets covering the surface area.  :doubt:
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Don't you think the Colossus would be too awesome if id hat this amount of weaponry? :D
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Edit: After playing around in Fred for the hell of it, I think the correct number is around 9-10 Lucies, thogh I'm not really sure what possessed me to check ;)

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The Colossus cutscene was bs.It says that the Colossus was bigger than 12 Lucifer class destroyers.Its only bigger than 3.

Learn to calculate VOLUME. Height, width AND length come into play....
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Don't you think the Colossus would be too awesome if id hat this amount of weaponry? :D

In all honesty, I seriously think that the Colossus is way underarmed. It is 12 times the volume of the Lucifer. Assuming that the Lucifer is twice the volume of an Orion (a reasonable estimate), that makes the Colossus 24 times the volume of an Orion. Why then the Colossus has only 5 times the firepower of an Orion,  about 6 times the fighter complement and 10 times the hit points? I might be able to accept the hit point value if I consider armour plating level, but not the issue of firepower.

 

Offline Desert Tyrant

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Thing is, I don't know the dimensions of the Colly exactly, but it only has to be 3 times as long, twice as wide and twice as high as the Lucifer for 12 of them to fit.

Edit: After playing around in Fred for the hell of it, I think the correct number is around 9-10 Lucies, thogh I'm not really sure what possessed me to check ;)
Because you could.   ;)

 
could the fs engine handle more weapons on the colossus?

 

Offline Bob-san

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That's the problem with uber-large ships--you hit a limit on the number of turrets. I think the Big C was a good idea gone awry, saying that that Big C's in-game setup was the same as it was advertised by the GTVA. The Colossus was designed to be surrounded by destroyers and still survive--thus the large beam coverage. It is quite deadly in the case of a broadside, though is very weak head-on, as compared to the Lucifer and Sathanas. Remember the Sath is larger than a Colossus--by volume. Most larger ships aren't as well-armed for their size--it just doesn't scale up that way. You need many more crew personal to keep a larger ship running, better weapons require more space, and everything requires more power. The storage tanks for the Colossus take up much more space then for an Orion. The crew has to sleep somewhere as well, and central recreational facilities would need to be larger. Remember how many people are on each ship. The Orion is a town, the Colossus is a city.
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Offline Polpolion

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I tried in FRED but the most lucies I could fit was five.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2007, 03:21:36 pm by thesizzler »

 

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You have to consider the spiky bits, and the fact that the colossus has a tower block hanging from the bottom of it, you need overlap the lucies slightly to compensate for their wierd shape.

Basically, you can fit two blocks of 2x2 lucies over the main body of the Collossus, and there's probably enough mass left over for 1, maybe 1.5 more.

 

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Well 64 turrets is quite a lot. More than any other retail FS2 ship.

 

Offline AlphaOne

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The orion has only 80 fighter.bommbers??? I thought it had 100!
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The orion has only 80 fighter.bommbers??? I thought it had 100!

That's 80 wings of 4 fighters = 320 fighters.
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Offline Bob-san

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Remember how big bombers are... try fitting 320 Ursa into an Orion! I Don't think it can be done... at least not with anything but a shell.
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Offline Polpolion

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The entire Colossus fighter compliment wasn't all Ursas.

  

Offline Snail

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The orion has only 80 fighter.bommbers??? I thought it had 100!

It could be anything from 96-120.

The entire Colossus fighter compliment wasn't all Ursas.

The Colossus fighterbay was a frikken hole! :P