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Offline Corsair

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Iceni Disappearing
on: February 12, 2002, 05:00:00 pm
Whenever I play a mission with the Iceni, it appears as a Ulysses without shields. I run a scan of it and it says
NTF Iceni
GTF Ulysses
in the target window. I checked in the VP files and it says the the Iceni POF is still there. Not to mention that I didn't have this problem when I played the campaign the first time! Why the heck is it doing this?
(Oh yeah, I forgot. This means the Iceni is destroyed in about thirty seconds in the first SOC mission  )

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Mal: Define "interesting".
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Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
 

Offline Jon Handby

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Reply #1 on: February 12, 2002, 05:03:00 pm
Sounds like you may have a ships.tbl file somwhere in the fs2 directories. Without the iceni in it. Have a check...

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Offline Corsair

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Reply #2 on: February 12, 2002, 05:05:00 pm
Good idea...
I forgot one thing though.
It gives me an error message that says that something is wrong in the sexpression, which means it's a FRED thing. And how come this wouldn't have happened the other times I've played the campaign?
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
 

Offline Jon Handby

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Reply #3 on: February 12, 2002, 05:07:00 pm
If you have placed a ships.tbl file then the sexp looks for a ship of that class, if it cant find it then *boom* la error...

It hasn't happened as you haven't had a ships.tbl there in the directories before.
If you have one in the directories it overrides the one in the VP files...

Regards

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Incidental Warfare
Cappella went nova, the GTVA stuggles to recover the NTF have broken up into two! And the shivans have a surprise in the bag!
No More Incidental Warfare...
I had to go away and help on something else - http://www.egosoft.com
 

Offline Corsair

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Reply #4 on: February 12, 2002, 05:12:00 pm
Ahhhhhhhhh yes of course of course! Why didn't I think of that?   Actually I would never have thought of that! Good call, I'll check it out.  
Oh yeah, and thanks a million!
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
 

Offline Jon Handby

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Reply #5 on: February 12, 2002, 05:14:00 pm
Glad to have been of some help...  

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Incidental Warfare
Cappella went nova, the GTVA stuggles to recover the NTF have broken up into two! And the shivans have a surprise in the bag!
No More Incidental Warfare...
I had to go away and help on something else - http://www.egosoft.com
  

Offline Galemp

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Reply #6 on: February 12, 2002, 08:22:00 pm
THIS is why my mod is FS2 friendly.  

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Offline LtNarol

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Reply #7 on: February 12, 2002, 09:31:00 pm
ok, the matter of the Iceni has been gone over many a time by the Fred2 community:

In "Touch of Fate", by Cetanu, the Iceni will sometimes appear as a Ulysses without shields.  Its a bug that has plagued us and isnt necesarily a mod.  The Iceni also isnt the only ship that does this, other capital ships have been known to do it from time to time, so dont be surprised next time you see a ulysses titled "NTF Iceni"

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Offline Corsair

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Reply #8 on: February 13, 2002, 05:54:00 pm
It's not just touch with fate though, it's any mission where the Iceni appears...I'll try what you guys said to do
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
 

Offline Cetanu

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Reply #9 on: February 14, 2002, 04:14:54 am
Actually that Ulysses bug has nothing to do with the Iceni at all in multiplayer missions

I'm playing a lot on PXO and over time it happened in ALL missions with captial ships, that anything bigger then a fighter/bomber randomly arrived as Ulysses instead of the standard ship - usually at least 1/2 of the client pilots crash to desktop when that happens

This Ulysses error in multiplayer could be a lag problem - never noticed that annoying bug when all players had a good connection to the host.
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Offline IceFire

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Iceni Disappearing
Reply #10 on: February 14, 2002, 02:31:04 pm
Did you install Derelict?  It removes the Iceni and adds the Saphah (which is very similar).  The SEXP expression error is caused because its looking for a subsystem (probably a turret) that doesn't have the same value (a Terran turret can't utilize fire-beam).

Capital ships do not disappear by themselves.  There is an answer for nearly every bug in FreeSpace.  Mysterious occurances are limited to "Planet" and the one where your ship gets named something (I forget).
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Offline BlackDove

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Reply #11 on: February 14, 2002, 02:41:26 pm
You people are talking about this right?

This is the intelligence excerpt ;) ;) ;) ;)



Check the targeted fighter, and then check the name of it and the sheild status. (ignore tha bus next to it)

This is from Sirius Blockade

-edit- the fighter/whateverthehellitis is unkillable of course, and you can lock it with your secondaries but the missiles won't track it-edit-
« Last Edit: February 14, 2002, 02:43:53 pm by 461 »
 

Offline IceFire

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Reply #12 on: February 14, 2002, 05:00:23 pm
What tables are you running?  If you open the mission in FRED, you should get a warning that some ships could not be found.  (the ulysses is the default).
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Offline Zeronet

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Iceni Disappearing
Reply #13 on: February 14, 2002, 05:12:57 pm
I actually thought that the ship was suppose to look like a Ussyles(spelling wrong i know), never found out until later.
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Offline BlackDove

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Reply #14 on: February 14, 2002, 08:25:53 pm
No tables here, all deleted cuz I play multi.  And if you had any tables you would always get the msg "*nickname* has hacked data/tables". However I don't know what the host has in there (if he has something) cuz I wasnt the host of that mission.
 

Offline CP5670

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Reply #15 on: February 14, 2002, 09:43:24 pm
I have actually never seen this happen before except when someone was using modified tables (even modified models work fine); is it just some weird multiplayer bug that has come up only recently?

The Dedun in that mission is supposed to be an Aten cruiser though, so I guess it is not limited to the Iceni.
 

Offline Cetanu

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Reply #16 on: February 15, 2002, 03:38:29 am
What did I say?! :D
Am I not trustworthy, CP? ;)
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Offline Corsair

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Iceni Disappearing
Reply #17 on: February 15, 2002, 10:35:22 am
k, I fixed it by reinstalling FreeSpace :eek: ! But I saved my pilots beforehand so it was ok...and the Iceni reappeared! Hooray! And yes, I had Derelict installed, which might have been part of my problem. Thank you, Icefire, for  pointing that out. I haven't checked to see if that is still in the directory or not, but I think it is...and the Iceni is still there!
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
 

Offline Ulundel

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Re: Iceni Disappearing
Reply #18 on: February 16, 2002, 11:40:14 am
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Originally posted by Corsair
Whenever I play a mission with the Iceni, it appears as a Ulysses without shields. I run a scan of it and it says
NTF Iceni
GTF Ulysses
in the target window. I checked in the VP files and it says the the Iceni POF is still there. Not to mention that I didn't have this problem when I played the campaign the first time! Why the heck is it doing this?
(Oh yeah, I forgot. This means the Iceni is destroyed in about thirty seconds in the first SOC mission  )

 


"I am admiral Bosch from the NTF Iceni a new Ulysses class frigate."

Ulysses????? HAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAH!   HAAHA!!!  HA!!!
 

Offline Corsair

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Re: Re: Iceni Disappearing
Reply #19 on: February 17, 2002, 12:02:04 pm
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve


"I am admiral Bosch from the NTF Iceni a new Ulysses class frigate."

Ulysses????? HAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAH!   HAAHA!!!  HA!!!


Snipes: All pilots, defend the Iceni!
*Vasudans, including Mentu, wing of Serapis and a wing of Taurets jump in*
Snipes: Dammit pilots we lost the Iceni because Bosch accidentally turned it into a Ulysses and forgot to put the shields on it. Well, I guess we know what the ETAK project is now! It turns modern corvettes into Great War era fighters - without shields! Return to base, or better yet go home because the NTF rebellion is all over, because our stupid leader got too doped up on his own beer and screwed up his command ship.

:D
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
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