[Stormkeeper]

Well, technicly, if a beam cannon like a LRBGreen or even a BGreen can dish out X damage, then a beam that is 100 times bigger should do 100 times more damage..In this case a lot more.

So a one-shot kill for a Sathanas sounds about right, given that according to it's size, it should be able to kill two Saths or more with one shot

If the Saths were dumb enough to sit in a line. Imo if the beam was that powerful, there's no way it'd be able to track effectively. Cruiser's be able to dodge the beam pretty effectively. It'd take a while to charge up too. Plus if you need to take a period of time to set up the cannon, I can just bring in a few cruisers/corvettes behind the beam and screw it up good. Hell, bring in a full bomber squadron to hammer those reactors and its bye bye pilum.

[haloboy100]

It'd take a while to charge up too. Plus if you need to take a period of time to set up the cannon, I can just bring in a few cruisers/corvettes behind the beam and screw it up good. Hell, bring in a full bomber squadron to hammer those reactors and its bye bye pilum.

Which is why it would obviously be guarded by other ships.

[Stormkeeper]

Yea, but if i use fighter squadrons and capital ships to tie down and lure the defenders away then bring in bombers.....

[TrashMan]

Assuming the defenders are STUPID enough to leave the gun undefended...even then, it's a BIG gun...it would take a lot to take it out

It's obviously designed to take out destroyer+ targets...you wuldn't waste it on a cruiser..that's what the 2-3 escort deystroyers are for

[Getter Robo G]

No offense, but eh big "Space Gun" thing was done twice before (AFAIK). WC's Behemoth, and Gorgon in derelict. BUT if you wanno go that route more power to you.

ONLY, for such an investment in a 5km mostly immobile gun ( is it moves very slowly then tactically it doesn;t move at significantly in a conbat situation) I would have an addition section made for EXTRA engines who's only purpose is to provide movement.

Namely lots of RCS thrusters to position and re-position the gun between firings, and also jump engines on standby.

I'd count on getting ONE shot (maybe two) before it's time to bag ass and get out of the system.

The smart way to use such a weapon is to extrapolate teh enemies future position and get the gun in system BEFORE them and power down/camoflauge it. Then do a fast power up, acquire target, and blast'em.

This is a surprise weapon, it won't win you a war, but for a nice big precision boom or to bombard a slow or HUGE (maybe planetary?) target it's sweet in my book! 

That's my opinion...

[jr2]

Instead of one big beam, how about maybe 30 small beams arranged in concentric (? right word ?) circles, like this:
                         
                         o  o
                      o   o   o
                    o  o o o  o
                      o   o   o
                         o  o

That way, you can fire only a few of them if you have a smaller target, and have more on reserve, so you could take out a ton of cruisers, boom boom boom, or fire all at once for a Destroyer+.

[Woolie Wool]

It also sounds wankier than the Apothess. One shot, one Sathanas kill? Ridiculous.

Well, technicly, if a beam cannon like a LRBGreen or even a BGreen can dish out X damage, then a beam that is 100 times bigger should do 100 times more damage..In this case a lot more.

So a one-shot kill for a Sathanas sounds about right, given that according to it's size, it should be able to kill two Saths or more with one shot

By your logic, we should be able to build a tower 1,000 times the size of the new Freedom Tower in New York City (since volume increases to the cube of the dimensional increase, that would be 17,760 feet tall). But we can't built a 17,760-foot tower.

[jr2]

Yet... I imagine at some point we could... but why waste the tremendous resources we'd need for that undertaking?  3 mi-high, great... now, if it was in space, we could do it a lot easier, don't have to worry about gravity or wind.

[Woolie Wool]

Yes, but you have the unbelievable energy consumption of manufacture, operating the drive engines, and firing the goddamn HUGE MOTHER****ING CANNON. No one has been observed to deploy a weapon anything like this, and I don't think the GTVA has the capability to make one. A weapon like the Apothess is far more realistic.

[Stormkeeper]

Honestly? Between building and utilizing this weapon and construction another Colossuss, I'd pick the Big C. It moves, has point defense, carries fighters, and can already nuke a lot of targets, even the Sath if you warp in behind.

[TrashMan]

Can it do it without taking damage from hte sath?

The main advantage of the canon is two-fold:

1. RANGE..the sath won't have a chance to shoot.

2. Fast kill. It won't take you 15 minutes to kill it, but 15 seconds...and then you can move on to next one.


This is a far better weapon against multiple saths, ESPECIALLY for node blockade. You know exactly where the neemy wil lcome from and you can take em out from long-range as they come in.

[Mehrpack]

Can it do it without taking damage from hte sath?

The main advantage of the canon is two-fold:

1. RANGE..the sath won't have a chance to shoot.

2. Fast kill. It won't take you 15 minutes to kill it, but 15 seconds...and then you can move on to next one.


This is a far better weapon against multiple saths, ESPECIALLY for node blockade. You know exactly where the neemy wil lcome from and you can take em out from long-range as they come in.

hi,
agree.
imho its to see as a much more advance version of the mjolnir.
to defence a nod or blockade it.


but i think too, thats its too fast in the movment, imho 10m/s or 15m/s is better and maybe a little bit shorter, 5 km, i think its look to oversized.
and i hope you will add more details, i agree with the other thats more details will be cool, maybe orientate on the barrel of the morning star.

i hope you keep working on it .

Mehrpack

[Woolie Wool]

Can it do it without taking damage from hte sath?

The main advantage of the canon is two-fold:

1. RANGE..the sath won't have a chance to shoot.

2. Fast kill. It won't take you 15 minutes to kill it, but 15 seconds...and then you can move on to next one.


This is a far better weapon against multiple saths, ESPECIALLY for node blockade. You know exactly where the neemy wil lcome from and you can take em out from long-range as they come in.

Forget multiple Sathanas juggernauts, because the GTVA cannot defend more than a couple of them, period. It's not going to happen. The Apothess can hit a Sathanas from 15km away. Two Apothesses can kill a Sathanas pretty quickly, and the Sath would have to travel 7,000 meters to get in BFRed range, which could take ten minutes.

The Pilum is fanwank.

[jr2]

...With Sheath Shields.   

Forgot that little part, did we?

[Woolie Wool]

Lucifer shields < beam cannons.

[TrashMan]

Forget multiple Sathanas juggernauts, because the GTVA cannot defend more than a couple of them, period. It's not going to happen. The Apothess can hit a Sathanas from 15km away. Two Apothesses can kill a Sathanas pretty quickly, and the Sath would have to travel 7,000 meters to get in BFRed range, which could take ten minutes.

The Pilum is fanwank.

Again you with the Apothesses....what is it with you and that ship?

[BrotherBryon]

So are all models being placed in the Freespace Modding board now? I thought they went in the Art board unless they were actually part of a mod.

[diceman111]

Forget multiple Sathanas juggernauts, because the GTVA cannot defend more than a couple of them, period. It's not going to happen. The Apothess can hit a Sathanas from 15km away. Two Apothesses can kill a Sathanas pretty quickly, and the Sath would have to travel 7,000 meters to get in BFRed range, which could take ten minutes.

The Pilum is fanwank.

Again you with the Apothesses....what is it with you and that ship?

Besides if I hack a table file I can make a fenris kick the crap out of a sath its only that it wouldent seem logical for a fenris to do that, but still if you say the GTVA have 10 years or so then they can come up with pretty good ships, besides if i am not mistaken the colossus took out a Sath(Ok with the help of Alpha Wing) so the thing isent "if" they could have build it the question is if they want to build it since a ship like the pilum could most likely only be useful against destroyers and bigger ships while two more powerful destroyers would be able to take out a sath and supply figther and bomber cover

/Dice

[jr2]

Lucifer shields < beam cannons.

OK, now imagine Sathy shields, if they existed.  Now imagine Pilum shields.  The reac(s) on this thing have to be frikkin' huge, and their power output equally tremendous.  (It has to fire that beam cannon, right?)

[ShadowGorrath]

I'm back and I'm mad ! I've seen so much nonsense about it , I'll try to clear up as much info as possible .

I didn't base it on any other ship I've seen ;

The sheath shields are powerful and made to whitstand at least one full beam cannon pounding ( like a full 4 Sathanas beam cannon fire ) until failure - it's a new standart to terran ships larger than a corvettes ;

The 2 Meson reactors provide gigantic amounts of energy , which are enough for the main guns , sheath shields and the impulse engines ( about them later ; thanks to Vasudan Commander for the Meson reactor idea ) ;

The main guns ( namely the main , middle one ) is extremally powerful , cause it can unleash a gigantic amount of energy ( beam , but not photon/flux beam cannon based ) towards any ship up to 50 kilometers in range ;

The main cannons take 2 minutes to charge up and fire , but have a fast recoiling time to charge up again ;

It can target either big or slowly moving targets , which makes it practically impossible to fire at a cruiser ;

The Meson reactors are inside , behind big amounts of armour , which makes them almost impossible to destroy with bombers ;

I will update it and add more detail ;

The two side Ion cannons are for smaller cap-ships , or if the main gun doesn't do it's "job"
 ( misses , doesn't fully destroy it's target ) ;

There are no rail-guns or anything like that . Though there are coil-guns ( called as Gauss Cannons ) , which are used as anti-fighter and anti-capship turrets on ships from cruisers to destroyers and even the super-destroyer . Beam cannons are used too though . However , even the basic cruiser carries the heavy green beam cannon ;

Also note - it's made 57 years after Capellan era ( after FS2 story ) and based on a new story I'm making for the Freespace universe . No rumors about it yet

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